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View Poll Results: The Hinn... What say you??
I think the Hinn has deceived even himself 26 38.81%
The Hinn has mastered the art of human behavior and hypnotic phenomena 19 28.36%
The Hinn is not even a good magician - cheap 15 22.39%
Benny Hinn is an annointed man of God 7 10.45%
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:39 PM
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I am not a fan of Benny, but you know he is an anointed man. The truth is that once God anoints someone He never removes His anointing.
is this something we know or is this something we believe because Nine god Benny told us?


Now, having said that, I am not in the business of telling God when He can heal someone or whom He gets to use. God does what He wants to and Im not on the committee that oversees His Actions.

I dont believe anything Benny says. I wouldn't go to any Benny "show", I wouldnt advise anyone to go. if someone tells me God healed them of a jock rash at a benny hinn "show" I am going to say "Praise the Lord" (and mean it).
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:40 PM
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It means I NEVER turn my mind off and demand that everything that is said is backed up by the appropriate application of Scripture. Also, that all miracles and stories should be able to be substantiated unlike the "drilling into hell" story I heard lee Stoneking tell.

I was referring to SH homepage. Kind of interesting.......

SH home page?? i'm lost
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:41 PM
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If you can't refute it attribute it to pride.
Are you asking for proof of miracles in the US?

I have a bit of sceptisim, but not enough to make me want to go join those that don't believe in modern miracles at all. I have seen, personally, a young man with a broken leg, in a cast, walking with crutches, be prayed for at La Youthcamp year before last, and he tell his mom he was healed. And that he wanted to go get an x-ray of his leg. He brought it back the next day. With the doctor's report that there was no longer a fracture. One of many miracles that took place.

Miracles were reported again this year but I was not there to see so I wouldn't be able to verify those.

Wouldn't it be better to have some of the miraculous, even if there might be those that are fakes mixed in? Why throw the baby out with the bath water?

Should we stop asking God to do what can't be done because the devil might make us look bad by pitching in with his own fakery?

The gifts and calling of the Lord are without repentance. Maybe that's why Jesus said to judge folks by the fruit they produce and not by the power or gifts they operate in.
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It is very dissapointing to find out everything you heard growing up was a Urban Legend! But live and learn and the READ the Bible!
I never said that. But I have heard a lot of misinformation in my time in the UPC. Not all men are that way. Some are careful some are not.

I do read the Bible and believe that if one sticks to preaching the Scripture most of the silliness would disappear.
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Are you asking for proof of miracles in the US?

I have a bit of sceptisim, but not enough to make me want to go join those that don't believe in modern miracles at all. I have seen, personally, a young man with a broken leg, in a cast, walking with crutches, be prayed for at La Youthcamp year before last, and he tell his mom he was healed. And that he wanted to go get an x-ray of his leg. He brought it back the next day. With the doctor's report that there was no longer a fracture. One of many miracles that took place.

Miracles were reported again this year but I was not there to see so I wouldn't be able to verify those.

Wouldn't it be better to have some of the miraculous, even if there might be those that are fakes mixed in? Why throw the baby out with the bath water?

Should we stop asking God to do what can't be done because the devil might make us look bad by pitching in with his own fakery?

The gifts and calling of the Lord are without repentance. Maybe that's why Jesus said to judge folks by the fruit they produce and not by the power or gifts they operate in.
I've never said that God cannot or does not heal. What I have said is that the BHs of this world are fakes and so are their "miracles"....and that many people are stupid.
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I am not a fan of Benny, but you know he is an anointed man. The truth is that once God anoints someone He never removes His anointing.
Just because ones operates in the gifts, it don't mean they are producing the fruit of the Spirit. Look at Balaam, he had a relationship with God. He talked to God and God answered. He prophesied the coming of the Messiah, but went back to where he came from and was killed when Israel conquered that land.

Jesus said by their fruits you will know them not by the power they operate in.
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I've never said that God cannot or does not heal. What I have said is that the BHs of this world are fakes and so are their "miracles"....and that many people are stupid.
RD, I think we agree.

I'd call them trees that are all leaves (by the way the power of the tree is in it's leaves) but no good fruit.

Check and see if their lives measure up to the attributes of the fruit of the Spirit and the Love chapter.
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I never said that. But I have heard a lot of misinformation in my time in the UPC. Not all men are that way. Some are careful some are not.

I do read the Bible and believe that if one sticks to preaching the Scripture most of the silliness would disappear.
Maybe it's a southern thing but there were a lot of preachers around here who would tell things during sermons that I later found out were not true at all.
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IF the people make it up, it's not on Benny Hinn. It's on them for being liars...

Don't say that it can't happen in an Apostolic church..........remeber Borat at our campmeeting...
It IS on Benny Hinn and his ministry for reporting them as actual miracles, if they do, as if they were verified. BTW I never said that it can't happen in an Apostolic church. Don't even try to put words in my mouth.,
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Is that really being fair ?? while I am no big fan of Benny, that is sucha ridiculous requirement. when is the last time we required doctor's with Xray machines inside OUR churches to validate the miraculous power of God? we take God at his word and the Peoples'word. If they claim THEIR Healing, I think we should accept it - It's between them and God.
let's fight fair
You guys missed the point. They DO have doctors there, but they don't do a thorough examination. Yet they are saying that they verified such and such person really had the sickness or whatever it was they claimed they had. HOs point is they can't really do that with just a visual examination and a questionnaire
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