Trinitarian Commentaries vs. Discourse Analysis (E

[houston]

Beware of the ESV!

The English Standard Version is of the Devil. There's not a more trustworthy Bible available today in English than the precious King James Bible. Homosexuals, Christ-rejecters, sin-lovers, apostates, liberals, ecumenicals, false teachers who teach false gospels, the self-righteous and sinister ministers will love the ESV.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by rdp

*LOL - perfect object lesson of the cultic-absurd nature of KJVO's. Think I'll order some more ESV's now .

Of course you will.

Gender neutral, Westcott/Hort translations are the latest fad.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by rdp

*You once again betray that you don't understand text-critic issues like you feign (which I already knew). For the 2nd time now, textual-variants are weighed, not counted & merely being consigned to a particular genealogical MS family in a sweeping broad brush.

*Incidentally, I never praised the CBGM, but am excited about the collations forthcoming from the world's greatest text-critics.

*Oh, & BTW, I argue in favor of the LEM (cf. Snapp) & "God" in I Tim. 3.16 (cf. Burgon). So, once again, you're merely swatting at shadows....which is why I simply do not take KJVO's seriously (they simply don't know what they're talking about & are cult-like in their esoteric nature). Carry on .

Can I and my family be saved with the KJV alone?

[Sean]

That's your best bet.

[Esaias]

RDP, who decided your church was going to the ESV as its primary text?

[Sean]

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. (KJV)



Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, a young woman shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. (RSV)



The Virgin Birth is attacked by the RSV in Isaiah 7:14 by replacing "virgin" with "young woman".

[Sean]

Next thing you know, you will be giving your church the MHV(modern hippie version)...




Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, a young chick shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name dude.



LOL

[Sean]

List of Bible verses not included in the ESV
List of Bible verses not included in the English Standard Version ESV

Contents [hide]
1 Matthew
2 Mark
3 Luke
4 John
5 Acts
6 Romans
7 1 John
8 See Also
9 References
Matthew
Matthew 12:47 - entire verse omitted
Matthew 17:21 - entire verse omitted
Footnote: Some manuscripts insert verse 21: But this kind never comes out except by prayer and fasting

Matthew 18:11 - entire verse omitted
Matthew 23:14 - entire verse omitted
Mark
Mark 7:16 - entire verse omitted
Mark 9:44 - entire verse omitted
Mark 9:46 - entire verse omitted
Mark 11:26 - entire verse omitted
Mark 15:28 - entire verse omitted
Luke
Luke 17:36 - entire verse omitted
Luke 22:44 - entire verse omitted
Luke 23:17 - entire verse omitted
John
John 5:4 - entire verse omitted
Acts
Acts 8:37 - entire verse omitted
Acts 15:34 - entire verse omitted
Acts 24:7 (note half of Acts 24:6 and 24:8 is also removed)
Acts 28:29 - entire verse omitted
Romans
Romans 16:24 - entire verse omitted
1 John
1 John 5:7 - entire verse omitted



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[Sean]

All because of copyright laws......




KJV But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.....



Becomes....





AMP [But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your transgressions.”]
AMPC But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your failings and shortcomings.
BRG But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
CJB
CEV Whenever you stand up to pray, you must forgive what others have done to you. Then your Father in heaven will forgive your sins.
DARBY But if *ye* do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in the heavens forgive your offences.
DLNT
DRA But if you will not forgive, neither will your Father that is in heaven, forgive you your sins.
ERV
EHV But if you do not forgive, your Father in heaven will not forgive your sins.”
EXB | But if you don’t forgive other people, then your Father in heaven will not forgive your ·sins [transgressions; trespasses].|”
GNV For if you will not forgive, your Father which is in heaven, will not pardon you your trespasses.
GNT
HCSB [ But if you don’t forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your wrongdoing.]”
ICB [But if you don’t forgive other people, then your Father in heaven will not forgive your sins.]
ISV But if you do not forgive, your Father in heaven will not forgive your sins.”
PHILLIPS “Have faith in God,” replied Jesus to them. “I tell you that if anyone should say to this hill, ‘Get up and throw yourself into the sea’, and without any doubt in his heart believe that what he says will happen, then it will happen! That is why I tell you, whatever you pray about and ask for, believe that you have received it and it will be yours. And whenever you stand praying, you must forgive anything that you are holding against anyone else, and your Heavenly Father will forgive you your sins.”
JUB For if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in the heavens forgive your trespasses.
TLB By this time they had arrived in Jerusalem again, and as he was walking through the Temple area, the chief priests and other Jewish leaders* came up to him demanding, “What’s going on here? Who gave you the authority to drive out the merchants?”
MEV But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in heaven forgive your sins.”
NABRE [ ]
NASB [But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in heaven forgive your transgressions.”]
NCV But if you don’t forgive other people, then your Father in heaven will not forgive your sins.]”
NIRV And when you stand praying, forgive anyone you have anything against. Then your Father in heaven will forgive your sins.”
NIV
NIVUK
NKJV But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your trespasses.”
NLV *If you do not forgive them their sins, your Father in heaven will not forgive your sins.”
NMB
OJB [But if you do not give mechila (forgiveness) neither will your chattaim receive selicha (forgiveness) from your Av shbaShomayim.]
TPT But if you will not release forgiveness, don’t expect your Father in heaven to release you from your misdeeds.”
TLV
VOICE [ If you don’t forgive others, don’t expect God’s forgiveness.]
WEB But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your transgressions.”
WE But if you do not forgive others, your Father in heaven will not forgive you for the wrong things you have done.'
WYC And if ye forgive not, neither your Father that is in heavens, shall forgive to you your sins.
YLT and, if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in the heavens forgive your trespasses.'
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Some versions above omit the verse, including the ESV.

[Scott Pitta]

Can we return to discourse analysis ?