Police Massacre Dallas, Tx-- Are you shocked?

[Esaias]

Remember - there is a certain DIRECTION that certain people want you to be moving along, they want you thinking in certain TERMS and CONCEPTS, and EVERYTHING - EVERY.THING. on the 'tv' or in the 'news' is part of poking you in that direction.

A good rule of thumb is "anything on the news is probably an intentional lie" unless you were actually there in the mix - and even then half of what you think you know is probably wrong.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Remember - there is a certain DIRECTION that certain people want you to be moving along, they want you thinking in certain TERMS and CONCEPTS, and EVERYTHING - EVERY.THING. on the 'tv' or in the 'news' is part of poking you in that direction.

A good rule of thumb is "anything on the news is probably an intentional lie" unless you were actually there in the mix - and even then half of what you think you know is probably wrong.

So are you saying the shootings did not occur???

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

So are you saying the shootings did not occur???

If I was saying 'the shootings did not occur' I would say 'the shootings did not occur'. I am saying the 'news reports' are propaganda, and I mean that specifically and definitely, not just hyperbolically. The news reports (no matter what they are reporting on) is literally and definitely, intentionally designed, propaganda.

As for what actually happened in Dallas, I have no idea. But I have over 20 videos I downloaded all last night from news media and individuals posting cell phone video. And the narrative has changed dramatically, in accordance with clearly discernible propaganda objectives.

In other words, they lie. If their lips are moving, they are lying in some way, shape, or form.

What actually happened? Who knows? I wasn't there, and even if I was, I still wouldn't know EXACTLY what happened unless I was 'in on it', one way or the other. And even then, probably wouldn't know the whole story.

What I *do* know is Hillary's de facto pardon is out of the news cycle, racial tensions have been increased, and the commies are bleating for citizen disarmament like there's no tomorrow, and the typical 'republican party/NRA' enablers are falling all over themselves to lend the commies a helping hand.

And that's really all I need to know about Dallas.

[Esaias]

The current story (?) is one lone shooter who got blown up by a bomb brought to him by a police robot.

Earlier in the event, the same people who are selling the current lie said there was one shooter dead by self inflicted gunshot wound AND another shooter holed up in the parking garage refusing to cooperate.

And those same people told us (I have the video) that 'a' shooter in 'a' parking garage 'has just surrendered' and I watched the video (yes, I have it on hard drive) where he came out and surrendered, body armor, army boots, and all.

Oh, and there's also video I have (several, from multiple angles) of a gunfight at street level showing one police officer being gunned down at point blank range by a shooter who is then apparently taken out by the police. Even one of the guys filming from his smart phone commented when it happened that the police had 'got him'. Whatever happened to THAT guy?

And the two people seen wearing body armor and fatigues or whatnot running and jumping into a 'black Mercedes' and speeding off, who were then shortly later apprehended? Whatever happened to those guys?

And the witnesses who stated there were at least TWO guys running around shooting rifles at the police?

And the police chief himself stating there were two snipers in elevated positions triangulating a coordinated military-style ambush? And the 'map' presented by the news media based on police statements showing the locations of the officers being shot and the suspected locations of the shooters - placing the shooters approximately 2-4 blocks away from the KIA officers... which indicates based on the distances and the accuracy of fire that whoever was shooting knew EXACTLY how to do it. I believe 12 city blocks is approx 1 mile, which makes 2 blocks 1/8 mile, which means shots were approximately 220 yards to about 400 yards. That's pretty good shooting considering the terrain and the situation (I know most gun owners consider themselves crack shots but the majority are usually just crack pots when it comes to medium and long range accuracy), hitting moving targets, especially once the first shots are fired those targets are all going to become as small as possible and be partially or completely hidden behind cover and concealment. Combined with the fact the shooters were aiming for and hitting only police (two non police officers were injured but I haven't seen any evidence of what their injuries were actually caused by, for all we know they may have been shot by the police. Police do not actually have a good record of accurate fires under stress...) at those supposed distances indicates trained snipers, in my opinion.

But all that goes away with the lone gun nut hate whitey (who lived with his white step-mother, by the way) we gotta disarm everyone except cops, military, and criminals let's forget about Hillary's NONindictment news reporting.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Interesting how this happened in liberal NYC.

Here is another article where they paid out $280k to a cop who exposed the quota system in a federal lawsuit in 2012.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b072e9d1c6d86b

So, here is a question for you.
How many people are "murdered" by cops, each year?

Based on the link you posted from the Washington post - 990 in 2015 and 509 so far in 2016. The link you posted counts incidents involving fatal force only. Also, it only shows a sum total per ethnicity.

However, since blacks are ~ 12% of the population, showing a sum total per ethnicity does not reflect what african americans are concerned about.

Accounting for all the incidents (not just those involving fatal force)

There were 1146 incidents in 2015.
Blacks - 306 (7.27 per million people)
Hispanic/Latino - 195 (3.51 per million people)
Native american - 13 (3.4 per million people)
White - 581 (2.93 per million people)
Asian - 24 (1.34 per million people)
Others/unknown - 27

So far in 2016
Blacks - 137 (3.25 per million people)
Hispanic/Latino - 88 (1.59 per million people)
Native american - 13 (3.4 per million people)
White - 279 (1.41 per million people)
Asian - 10 (0.56 per million people)
Others/unknown - 42

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/n...s-us-database#

Now, someone will come along to say well, the ratio is higher for blacks 'cause they commit more crimes. Well, that is debatable. For instance - young black folks using marijuana in their neighborhood are usually aggressively apprehended while young white folks use the same marijuana on college campuses all the time, but it's just seen as normal college fun. Events like this skew the data towards blacks "committing more crimes."

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The current story (?) is one lone shooter who got blown up by a bomb brought to him by a police robot.

Earlier in the event, the same people who are selling the current lie said there was one shooter dead by self inflicted gunshot wound AND another shooter holed up in the parking garage refusing to cooperate.

And those same people told us (I have the video) that 'a' shooter in 'a' parking garage 'has just surrendered' and I watched the video (yes, I have it on hard drive) where he came out and surrendered, body armor, army boots, and all.

Oh, and there's also video I have (several, from multiple angles) of a gunfight at street level showing one police officer being gunned down at point blank range by a shooter who is then apparently taken out by the police. Even one of the guys filming from his smart phone commented when it happened that the police had 'got him'. Whatever happened to THAT guy?

And the two people seen wearing body armor and fatigues or whatnot running and jumping into a 'black Mercedes' and speeding off, who were then shortly later apprehended? Whatever happened to those guys?

And the witnesses who stated there were at least TWO guys running around shooting rifles at the police?

And the police chief himself stating there were two snipers in elevated positions triangulating a coordinated military-style ambush? And the 'map' presented by the news media based on police statements showing the locations of the officers being shot and the suspected locations of the shooters - placing the shooters approximately 2-4 blocks away from the KIA officers... which indicates based on the distances and the accuracy of fire that whoever was shooting knew EXACTLY how to do it. I believe 12 city blocks is approx 1 mile, which makes 2 blocks 1/8 mile, which means shots were approximately 220 yards to about 400 yards. That's pretty good shooting considering the terrain and the situation (I know most gun owners consider themselves crack shots but the majority are usually just crack pots when it comes to medium and long range accuracy), hitting moving targets, especially once the first shots are fired those targets are all going to become as small as possible and be partially or completely hidden behind cover and concealment. Combined with the fact the shooters were aiming for and hitting only police (two non police officers were injured but I haven't seen any evidence of what their injuries were actually caused by, for all we know they may have been shot by the police. Police do not actually have a good record of accurate fires under stress...) at those supposed distances indicates trained snipers, in my opinion.

But all that goes away with the lone gun nut hate whitey (who lived with his white step-mother, by the way) we gotta disarm everyone except cops, military, and criminals let's forget about Hillary's NONindictment news reporting.

All black ops.

[Originalist]

My 84 year old father explained to me why segregationists were so adamant back in the day about keeping the races divided. He said everyone took for granted that as long as white liberals dominated the establishment, that blacks would be used as their puppets to torment white conservatives. The seemingly hypnotic power white liberals have over blacks is incredible, so much so that they continue to support them in droves in spite of the fact that liberalism has destroyed the black community. Segregationists built walls to protect themselves. As long as white liberals were in control, there could be no possibility of harmony among the races.

Is this thinking really that far off? It makes no difference that blacks like Herman Cain, Allen West, Tim Scott and others can be elected by huge margins in predominately white areas. No matter how hard we try, no matter what we do to reach out to the black community, it's all drowned out by white liberals screaming stuff about "white privilege" , tearing down our founders, teaching white kids they are "born racist", and continually reminding blacks how victimized they are.

The white, liberal establishment sees tragedies such as Dallas as a good thing to help bring about more of their agenda. I see no hope after Dallas.


http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...ung-black-men/

I see no way liberalism and conservatism can coexist. One will destroy the other. There will be a cataclysmic upheaval in this country. When the dust settles, those who hold liberal views will no longer be able to freely espouse their dogma. Just as Germany had to be "de-Nazified", so must liberalism be rooted out of our national culture. It is a menace to the survivability of America and man-kind.

[Esaias]

What's interesting is that although it's true that blacks get a worse end of the bargain when interacting with police than whites do (in general), this seems to be irrelevent to whether or not the police officer(s) is/are black.

I have seen black officers harass black people just as bad if not worse than white police officers do. In fact, black officers tend to treat white people better than they treat black people. It's like even black people are mean to black people.

And I think this goes more to a 'police vs ghetto thug' thing than a police vs black thing. I have seen white trash meth-head 'vanilla ice hip-hop wanna be gangsta' types interacting with police, and the police treat them pretty much exactly like they treat black ghetto worldstar superthugs.

When I was young I was harassed by police constantly. Had them park outside my friend's house when I was there, literally follow me around, and they would use ANY excuse possible to mess with me. And Lord help me if I talked trash to them. I use to get away with it when I was 12-14, but once I hit about 16 that 'junior potty mouth' was a no-go.

Interestingly, once I got saved and cleaned up my act my interactions with police became way much friendlier and more sociable. I haven't a bad 'cop experience' since my late teens. Even in my early 20s, when I still had 'issues' I had learned that being respectful and not being a butt head big mouth went a long way to guaranteeing your own personal safety around Johnny Law.

Of course, none of this applies when you're the victim of a bad address no-knock SWAT raid or when things just 'go wrong' and YOU are gonna be the fall guy no matter what actually happened because someone's pension and career is on the line, or you run across an actual corrupt cop (and there's LOTS of them, I know from experience back in my day).

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

My 84 year old father explained to me why segregationists were so adamant back in the day about keeping the races divided. He said everyone took for granted that as long as white liberals dominated the establishment, that blacks would be used as their puppets to torment white conservatives. The seemingly hypnotic power white liberals have over blacks is incredible, so much so that they continue to support them in droves in spite of the fact that liberalism has destroyed the black community. Segregationists built walls to protect themselves. As long as white liberals were in control, there could be no possibility of harmony among the races.

Is this thinking really that far off? It makes no difference that blacks like Herman Cain, Allen West, Tim Scott and others can be elected by huge margins in predominately white areas. No matter how hard we try, no matter what we do to reach out to the black community, it's all drowned out by white liberals screaming stuff about "white privilege" , tearing down our founders, teaching white kids they are "born racist", and continually reminding blacks how victimized they are.

The white, liberal establishment sees tragedies such as Dallas as a good thing to help bring about more of their agenda. I see no hope after Dallas.


http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presid...ung-black-men/

I see no way liberalism and conservatism can coexist. One will destroy the other. There will be a cataclysmic upheaval in this country. When the dust settles, those who hold liberal views will no longer be able to freely espouse their dogma. Just as Germany had to be "de-Nazified", so must liberalism be rooted out of our national culture. It is a menace to the survivability of America and man-kind.

Yes, communism will have to be rooted out of our nation if it is to survive. That means the 'liberals' and their 'conservative opposition' enablers. Liberty isn't a suicide pact.

[Originalist]