Apostolic Friends Forum
Tab Menu 1
Go Back   Apostolic Friends Forum > The Sanctuary > Deep Waters
Facebook

Notices

Deep Waters 'Deep Calleth Unto Deep ' -The place to go for Ministry discussions. Please keep it civil. Remember to discuss the issues, not each other.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 09-06-2014, 05:53 PM
Sean Sean is offline
Banned


 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 23,543
Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxeas View Post
I never saw anyone say they can't reproduce with each other. The text seems to make it clear they saw WOMEN and liked what they saw and became men not women


The only way an angel can "appear" as a man(but remain an angel) is by a miracle of God. The only time we see this in scripture is when God divinely interacts with man,through GODLY angels.
We dont have any evidence that demons can appear as men. But they can only "possess"(enter into) men. All angels or demons are invisible spirits. They can only visibly manifest themselves to our physical world by the power of God.(if God orders it). They are God's creation, therefore if they could marry and have the ability to have sex with humans, God made them that way...WHERE IS THIS HAPPENING TODAY??? The so called offspring are supposedly dead(even though we see them in Caanan after the flood). Where are the original "DADDY" angels that morphed into humans? Why are we not seeing it today? Are fallen angels, cast out of heaven, suddenly able to reproduce with each other?(or maybe ONLY with humans)? I guess after the flood, they kept having angel babies until the Israelites exterminated them?

Is this the kind of nonsense that you want your churches to believe in? This teaching results in bazaar, extra biblical concepts that make the saints look like believers of ancient mythology .

Last edited by Sean; 09-06-2014 at 06:15 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 09-06-2014, 06:51 PM
mfblume's Avatar
mfblume mfblume is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Portage la Prairie, MB CANADA
Posts: 38,161
Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean View Post


Maybe they were the rock monsters on the NOAH movie...LOL
The rock monsters of the Noah movie are indeed what this theory is saying. All of that nonsense is from the BOOK OF ENOCH. That is where people got the idea of angels mating with human women. Nonsense.
__________________
...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.

"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 09-06-2014, 10:01 PM
FlamingZword's Avatar
FlamingZword FlamingZword is offline
Yeshua is God


 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,158
Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mfblume View Post
The rock monsters of the Noah movie are indeed what this theory is saying. All of that nonsense is from the BOOK OF ENOCH. That is where people got the idea of angels mating with human women. Nonsense.
Ok, then where did the giants came from?
for we do know that there were giants in the earth in ancient times.

please explain the existence of giants.
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 09-06-2014, 11:09 PM
shag shag is offline
.


 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,605
Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke View Post
These are the only times that the phrase sons of God is used in the old testament:

Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?


Can you show me one other time in the old testament that the phrase sons of God reffers to humans except the one time that you do not like?

Also it does not say in luke that the angels cannot marry or be given in marriage but that they don't.




I'm not EB, but I'll take a stab. Here's 2. (The LORD your God is alive, right? ) same Hebrew word-'ben' strongs H1121


Hos. 1:10 you are the sons of the living God. (Not angels)

Deut. 14:1 You are the sons of the LORD your God; (not angels)


Doesn't count..? Explain the difference.
__________________
If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his sincere friend. Therein is a drop of honey that catches his heart...
Abraham Lincoln


Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. - Eph. 4:29

Last edited by shag; 09-06-2014 at 11:11 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 09-06-2014, 11:21 PM
shag shag is offline
.


 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,605
Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamingZword View Post
Ok, then where did the giants came from?
for we do know that there were giants in the earth in ancient times.

please explain the existence of giants.
Please explain the existence of the 'giant' Anakites, as they could not be genetically related to a giant race that was destroyed by the flood.

(And what the average heighth of a rebellious angel is , and how the Nephilim could already be on the earth when the supposed angels had sex with the women?)
__________________
If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his sincere friend. Therein is a drop of honey that catches his heart...
Abraham Lincoln


Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. - Eph. 4:29

Last edited by shag; 09-06-2014 at 11:56 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 09-07-2014, 12:30 AM
FlamingZword's Avatar
FlamingZword FlamingZword is offline
Yeshua is God


 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,158
Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?

Quote:
Originally Posted by shag View Post
Please explain the existence of the 'giant' Anakites, as they could not be genetically related to a giant race that was destroyed by the flood.
Actually the existence of the Anakites is explained by a legend that says that one of the wives of the sons of Noah was related to one of the giants. So Canaan had a genetic contamination that appeared later on in the Anakites.

The destruction of Canaan accomplished the destruction of this genetic contamination, with the last giants killed by David and his men.
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 09-07-2014, 01:35 AM
Praxeas's Avatar
Praxeas Praxeas is offline
Go Dodgers!


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 45,791
Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean View Post
The only way an angel can "appear" as a man(but remain an angel) is by a miracle of God.
Im confused....who says they remained angels?
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:


  1. There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  6. The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 09-07-2014, 09:06 AM
Sean Sean is offline
Banned


 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 23,543
Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxeas View Post
Im confused....who says they remained angels?


When the 2 angels that rescued Lot appeared as men, did they cease to be angels?
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 09-07-2014, 09:09 AM
Sean Sean is offline
Banned


 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 23,543
Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?

Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamingZword View Post
Actually the existence of the Anakites is explained by a legend that says that one of the wives of the sons of Noah was related to one of the giants. So Canaan had a genetic contamination that appeared later on in the Anakites.

The destruction of Canaan accomplished the destruction of this genetic contamination, with the last giants killed by David and his men.


That is what I have been trying to make you folks think about, you are teaching mythology and LEGENDS....
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Do Humans Turn Into Angels? Cindy Fellowship Hall 11 12-24-2012 08:35 PM
Our angels kristian's_mom Fellowship Hall 14 10-15-2009 12:56 PM
Modern Humans and Neanderthals Praxeas Fellowship Hall 1 10-01-2008 03:56 AM
Matthew 18: A Systematic Philosopy for Dealing with Humans and Error--Part One JAnderson The Library 2 03-02-2007 03:38 PM

 
User Infomation
Your Avatar

Latest Threads
- by coksiw

Help Support AFF!

Advertisement




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.