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09-06-2014, 05:53 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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I never saw anyone say they can't reproduce with each other. The text seems to make it clear they saw WOMEN and liked what they saw and became men not women
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The only way an angel can "appear" as a man(but remain an angel) is by a miracle of God. The only time we see this in scripture is when God divinely interacts with man,through GODLY angels.
We dont have any evidence that demons can appear as men. But they can only "possess"(enter into) men. All angels or demons are invisible spirits. They can only visibly manifest themselves to our physical world by the power of God.(if God orders it). They are God's creation, therefore if they could marry and have the ability to have sex with humans, God made them that way...WHERE IS THIS HAPPENING TODAY??? The so called offspring are supposedly dead(even though we see them in Caanan after the flood). Where are the original "DADDY" angels that morphed into humans? Why are we not seeing it today? Are fallen angels, cast out of heaven, suddenly able to reproduce with each other?(or maybe ONLY with humans)? I guess after the flood, they kept having angel babies until the Israelites exterminated them?
Is this the kind of nonsense that you want your churches to believe in? This teaching results in bazaar, extra biblical concepts that make the saints look like believers of ancient mythology .
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09-06-2014, 06:51 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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Maybe they were the rock monsters on the NOAH movie...LOL
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The rock monsters of the Noah movie are indeed what this theory is saying. All of that nonsense is from the BOOK OF ENOCH. That is where people got the idea of angels mating with human women. Nonsense.
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09-06-2014, 10:01 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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The rock monsters of the Noah movie are indeed what this theory is saying. All of that nonsense is from the BOOK OF ENOCH. That is where people got the idea of angels mating with human women. Nonsense.
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Ok, then where did the giants came from?
for we do know that there were giants in the earth in ancient times.
please explain the existence of giants.
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09-06-2014, 11:09 PM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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These are the only times that the phrase sons of God is used in the old testament:
Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Can you show me one other time in the old testament that the phrase sons of God reffers to humans except the one time that you do not like?
Also it does not say in luke that the angels cannot marry or be given in marriage but that they don't.
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I'm not EB, but I'll take a stab. Here's 2. (The LORD your God is alive, right?  ) same Hebrew word-'ben' strongs H1121
Hos. 1:10 you are the sons of the living God. (Not angels)
Deut. 14:1 You are the sons of the LORD your God; (not angels)
Doesn't count..? Explain the difference.
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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Ok, then where did the giants came from?
for we do know that there were giants in the earth in ancient times.
please explain the existence of giants.
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Please explain the existence of the 'giant' Anakites, as they could not be genetically related to a giant race that was destroyed by the flood.
(And what the average heighth of a rebellious angel is  , and how the Nephilim could already be on the earth when the supposed angels had sex with the women?)
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09-07-2014, 12:30 AM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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Please explain the existence of the 'giant' Anakites, as they could not be genetically related to a giant race that was destroyed by the flood.
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Actually the existence of the Anakites is explained by a legend that says that one of the wives of the sons of Noah was related to one of the giants. So Canaan had a genetic contamination that appeared later on in the Anakites.
The destruction of Canaan accomplished the destruction of this genetic contamination, with the last giants killed by David and his men.
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09-07-2014, 01:35 AM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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The only way an angel can "appear" as a man(but remain an angel) is by a miracle of God.
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Im confused....who says they remained angels?
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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Im confused....who says they remained angels?
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When the 2 angels that rescued Lot appeared as men, did they cease to be angels?
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09-07-2014, 09:09 AM
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Re: Angels reproducing with humans possible?
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Actually the existence of the Anakites is explained by a legend that says that one of the wives of the sons of Noah was related to one of the giants. So Canaan had a genetic contamination that appeared later on in the Anakites.
The destruction of Canaan accomplished the destruction of this genetic contamination, with the last giants killed by David and his men.
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That is what I have been trying to make you folks think about, you are teaching mythology and LEGENDS....
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