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Old 07-09-2014, 05:03 PM
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Right, a literal sound that they used imagery to describe - loud wind.

The Spirit that descended upon Jesus wasn't an actual dove, the imagery was gentleness, hence the imagery of a dove.




Thats fine, Are you saying though, that there was no actual sound from HEAVEN of a rushing mighty wind that FILLED the house???


Please tell me where you are going here....
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Old 07-09-2014, 05:04 PM
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True. I agree that geographics would play a part.
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Old 07-09-2014, 05:08 PM
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Thats fine, Are you saying though, that there was no actual sound from HEAVEN of a rushing mighty wind that FILLED the house???


Please tell me where you are going here....
I am saying that the Bible says, "As of", that means in the Greek, "exactly like". So, whatever the sound was, it reminded them of wind. So, yes, I am saying they apparently heard something. They used imagery to describe the sound as something they were familiar with, wind.
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I am saying that the Bible says, "As of", that means in the Greek, "exactly like". So, whatever the sound was, it reminded them of wind. So, yes, I am saying they apparently heard something. They used imagery to describe the sound as something they were familiar with, wind.


Ok, thanks. I needed your clarification. forgive me for being slow...LOL

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Ok, thanks. I needed your clarification. forgive me for being slow...LOL
We were on the same page from the beginning. I was speaking more to your point in Post #44 "We have heard preachers all our life say it was a wind..."

Then you went on to say "It was only a sound of a wind." Which kind of looks like you were still having the idea that it was wind. Sound of wind doesn't support that view, but sound of "a" wind does. So, I was confused by your post, initially.

Of course, these posts could be a very good example of nitpicking the scriptures to death.
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Old 07-09-2014, 05:38 PM
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We were on the same page from the beginning. I was speaking more to your point in Post #44 "We have heard preachers all our life say it was a wind..."

Then you went on to say "It was only a sound of a wind." Which kind of looks like you were still having the idea that it was wind. Sound of wind doesn't support that view, but sound of "a" wind does. So, I was confused by your post, initially.

Of course, these posts could be a very good example of nitpicking the scriptures to death.


Sorry, I started to realize that....LOL....I was emphasizing SOUND, because of John 3:5-8. It is a "prophecy" of Acts 2. Some folks are unaware of that, and can easily link the 2 passages together to "bolster" John 3:5s Water and Spirit doctrine.
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Amazing how backslid preachers have such insights into truth.
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I sure love my 4 birth believing brothers!!
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We love you too our unborn brother(stuck in the birth canal)....LOL


FYI....that's somebody conceived(born) by the Spirit but not yet born again of the water through baptism.

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