Perry.
I think a ticket of Perry/Romney would win back the White House easier than any other.
Ron Paul is closer to my way of thinking than any of the other candidates, but there is no way he could win.
ding ! ding ! ding!!!!!! we have a winner..Perry can cover Romney's Mormon background which should not be used against him in the first place; adn romney can cover Perry's madness
Bachmann's a nut, Romney's weird, Gingrich is done, Huntsman is so pathetic he's pandering to Bachmann in hopes of being her VP, I like a lot of what Ron Paul says - and will probably vote for him in the primary, Perry is starting to scare the jeebers out of me, Santorum is ignorant - Ron Paul took him to the woodshed during the IA debate.
I'm still hoping Gov. Christy comes into the race.
Of course, we can look forward to Palin joining the race next week. Oh happy day... [tic]
Bachmann's a nut, Romney's weird, Gingrich is done, Huntsman is so pathetic he's pandering to Bachmann in hopes of being her VP, I like a lot of what Ron Paul says - and will probably vote for him in the primary, Perry is starting to scare the jeebers out of me, Santorum is ignorant - Ron Paul took him to the woodshed during the IA debate.
I'm still hoping Gov. Christy comes into the race.
Of course, we can look forward to Palin joining the race next week. Oh happy day... [tic]
what about Perry scares you?
and if Bachman is a nut (and I think I agree with you) how can you say Ron Paul isnt?
that gives me whiplash!
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So what's this about Bush not liking Perry? I thought they were close, Perry was lt. Gov. under Bush correct?
Catch me up, I'm only mildly political.
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Really an excellent speech. I especially like this, because it is true!
"Let me just add something to this. I think this is an important forum for candor. I know that it's popular, in my party, to blame the President, the current President, but the truth is that the only thing that this President has done is accelerate policies that were already in place and were doomed to fail. All he's doing through his policies is to make the day of reckoning come faster. But, it was coming nonetheless. What we have now is not sustainable. The roll of Government and the roll that Government now plays in America cannot be sustained the way it is."
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and if Bachman is a nut (and I think I agree with you) how can you say Ron Paul isnt?
that gives me whiplash!
I want to like Perry. But with the way the media digs and trashes conservatives, I'm worried that he seems too clean. That somewhere under that fascade - the big smile, Texas swagger and Christian values talking personna - are a big pile of skeletons waiting to be exposed in time for Obama to win his second term.
That's why I say Perry scares me.
We can't compare Bachmann with Ron Paul. Bachmann's said some incredibly far-out things that have zero intellect or facts to support.
With Ron Paul, yes sometimes his political views are hard to swallow - the idea of allowing Iran to possess atomic weapons is one ... but he brings a valid and reasonable arguement. I may not agree, but I can understand the logic of what he says.
Ron Paul is not a nut. He isn't crazy. He absolutely schooled Santorum on Iran. He's right on so many things with regards to the founding and constitution - including his view on Iran. I doubt our founders would support our foreign policy and the ridiculous number of conflicts we're involved with in the middle east and elsewhere.
The Official Media Guide to Attacking Ron Paul
Here are some wonderful tactics to utilize when applying the Mass Media Ron Paul Rule:
Continually label him as a long shot candidate. This is the most important of all the tactics so we list it first. Sure, it is true that Ron Paul has won or placed high in many straw polls across the country but we must never mention it. Instead, in every article or television news story copy we should use one or more of the terms dark horse, long shot, barely registering in the polls, quixotic or gadfly. If we can do this consistently, our job is complete.
Attack his supporters. Ron Paul has a stellar personal record with his marriage of over 50 years, 5 children, and 18 grandchildren. His political record is also exemplary with him never voting to raise taxes and always voting in accordance with the Constitution. Because of this, attacking him on his record is a daunting task. The best method to marginalize him is to attack his supporters. This can be accomplished by calling his supporters names like kooky, crazy, conspiracy nutjobs, paultards, and the like. This is classic guilt by association and works well on the apathetic electorate.
Call him Libertarian as much as possible. Continually giving him the libertarian label is a great covert method of Ron Paul marginalization. This reinforces that he is not really a Republican even though he has held office as a Republican for 10 terms. We find that if you are in radio or television you may even say the word libertarian using a negative tone during questions. This perpetuates the extremism inherent in Ron Paul’s policies even though the word libertarian simply means: one who believes in liberty.
Continually ask him if he is planning on running as a third party candidate. This tactic should be used often. It accomplishes two things. First, it suggests that he is not a serious candidate for the Republican party. Second, it will get him on record as saying he won’t run for a third party. If he should happen to run third party at a later date he can be attacked for changing his position.
Ask him if he would support the GOP nominee if he doesn’t win. Ron Paul is against the Iraq war and wishes to bring the troops home from overseas in order to help stem the tide of government overspending. This makes him different than all of the other Republican candidates who support keeping our troops overseas indefinitely. As media we must make all attempts to not only marginalize his candidacy, but also marginalize his steadfast message of linking the cost of the war on terror to our economic woes here at home.
Focus on his campaign strategy rather than his message. Ron Paul’s message of freedom, prosperity, and peace should be overshadowed by talk of his successful grassroots campaign. The more we focus on how he raises money and the types of supporters he has, the less time he has to talk about his message that is sure to resonate with most Americans. We must make all attempts to block or cloud that message. If it were to get out, it could spell doom for our chosen candidates.
Attack him for not returning donations from fringe supporters. White supremacists and prostitutes have donated money to Ron Paul and that is bad. We can use our political correctness and superior morality as a weapon and ask him why does he not return that donation money. After all a white supremacist would do more good with having an extra $500 in his pocket than a doctor who has delivered over 4000 babies while preaching peace and equal rights for everyone.
Abolishing the IRS is crazy. Attacking his stance on abolishing the IRS and replacing it with nothing is also effective. After all most Americans don ft know that we could do without the income tax if we just went back to the same level of government spending that we had in the 1990 (A great method is to reply to his answer with an incredulous replace it with NOTHING? How can the government function?) comment. This tactic will scare people into believing in how the government always has our best interests at heart. It will help people ignore the fact that Ron Paul also wants to cut government spending drastically in order to balance the budget.
Label him an isolationist for his foreign policy views. Since he wants to bring our troops home from not just Iraq, but all of the 130 other occupied countries he should be deemed an isolationist. It doesn’t matter that Ron Paul wants free trade and travel with other countries and thus is not truly an isolationist. The people will believe what we tell them to believe.
This directive gives us several tactics to be used in the fight against Ron Paul’s candidacy for president. We should use them all and use them often. After all Ron Paul’s message of freedom, prosperity, and peace is antiquated and has no place in our authoritarian world.
So what's this about Bush not liking Perry? I thought they were close, Perry was lt. Gov. under Bush correct?
Catch me up, I'm only mildly political.
It actually started during the campaign when then Gov. Bush got Perry to run for Lt. Gov.
Bushes people wanted to run the campaign a certain way and Perry wanted to be more agressive against his opponent.
Bush was all about playing nice at the time but Perry was in much more of a dogfight than Bush was. Bush has huge approval numbers but Perry was new on the state level running in a tight race.
Perry went against the Bush machine desires and that kind of set the stage.
Also in Texas, the Lt. Gov. is not a figure head He has real power in the legislative area. Perry did things his own way at times and that didnt set well with Bush.
After Bush won the presidency, His people would call Perry with "advice" on what to do, how to do it and what agenda to set.
Somewhere early on, Perry got enough and told them how he was governor and "if George wants to run Texas, tell him to come back and run against me".
That was kind of the breaking point....
Then later on in GWB's second term as GWB approval numbers were sliding, Perry made several public comments that were slights and down right disagreements with how GWB was doing things... kind of siding with the wing of the conservative movement that was very unhappy with GWB.
That broke things pretty completely and it wasnt long after that that Kay Bailey Hutchensen announced she was leaving the senate to run against Perry.
That is the short version. but pretty accurate.
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I like this guy, may he continue to shine the light on correct paths for our government.
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