Cop tases Mom While Kids Watch

[coadie]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

That's true, but she disobeyed his first instruction, right? I think that threw him off, and then he just started reacting badly (to say the least).

I'm just pointing out that as a mother, my first concern is my children--not saving money, making a political point or salvaging my pride. So from that perspective, I think she acted stupidly.

Understanding human behavior. This mom apparently drives a school bus. She is familiar with driving because she has a CDL.

If she has a CDL, she knows what a ticket means. It can mean loss of job. 11 years driving a bus.

On the other hand, she has never probably worked through her mind how she would deal with a stop, If you have a flat, you just get out and go back when you see it is clear in your mirror. She did obey his first instruction. He asked for her lisence and the video shows her givning it to him and he walked back. He made another mistake by facing back . He is open to getting shot.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

That's true, but she disobeyed his first instruction, right? I think that threw him off, and then he just started reacting badly (to say the least).

I'm just pointing out that as a mother, my first concern is my children--not saving money, making a political point or salvaging my pride. So from that perspective, I think she acted stupidly.

It's always wise to follow cops instruction, but what law was broken by her not getting back in her car. For her to stay standing in front of her door is not a threat..

[Esther]

Sorry I saw absolutely nothing to justify him tasing her. She was not in any way agressive.

I think the officer has a "authority" problem.

Seems there was some confusion as to what the officer wanted from her.

But this is based on what we could see and not hear.

But I saw nothing to justify tasing.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Ferd

does not matter. she didnt do what the cop told her to do. period.

she deserved to get tazed. you dont get to tell the cop to pound sand.

maybe some folks around here need a good taz'en?

Sorry, Ferd, she did NOT deserved to be tazed. And if it were your wife you would feel different.

I can tell you a bank teller was shot because she didn't move when the robber came in. Why? Because most of the other robbers said don't move, so she didn't. This one didn't say so she didn't move. He shot her and nearly killed her.

Past experience could have had her getting out of the car. Some officers say get out, others don't really say.

But she was not threatening the officer in anyway. He has a power problem. If he felt threatened by this woman he doesn't need to be on the force. IMO

[Cindy]

Overreaction on the officer's part, maybe. I would not get out of my car unless asked by the officer. They usually want you to stay IN the car for safety reason's.

[oletime]

way to go mom! now when your little darlings dont do what the officer or anybody in authority tells them to when they grow up, you can look back on this and blame yourself. maybe you can even stand over their gravesite and wish they had done what they were told . the only one who has an authority /power problem is her. thats a big part of the problem in this country. alot of people dont want to do what they are told. its called the payback from the 60's. ya reap what ya sow! zap her FOR REAL THIS TIME! which by the way i dont believe he did . ive seen enough of these, including a 230 pound attitude adjustment, google that on youtube its pretty funny , to know she didnt get it, otherwise she would have been flat on her face or back like rigor mortis set in . not kneeling, she is DRAMA QUEEN period .

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Nope, not at all. I think he was acting like a big, narcissistic wimp. He should be reprimanded. But she still acted stupidly--especially since her kids were in the car.

I think police are more likely to abuse their power when they carry non-lethal weapons, because they know the victim won't be killed. If he had just had a gun on him, I doubt he would have killed her because she was arguing and being difficult. But tazing seems acceptable since it's relatively harmless. Additionally, it was dangerous for him to take her down right in the roadway.

I'm just acknowledging her stupidity for being argumentative and uncooperative. Police have a job to do, and they need to be allowed to do their job, even when they're wrong. There's no need to endanger yourself or your children because of a ticket. It can be protested later in court. Protecting your life? Sure. Endanger yourself. I would. But protecting your pocketbook? Not worth it, IMO.

...I guess I was with Ferd, except on the "TAZE THEM ALL" comments. LOL!!!!

When did it become "stupid" in America to get out of ones of personal vehicle on a public thoroughfare while dealing with a law "enforcement" officer?

Are they so rogue that you should expect this treatment for an action that breaks no law?

Are we not THE PEOPLE?

Should we not demand that our officers only arrest people for breaking the law?

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by oletime

way to go mom! now when your little darlings dont do what the officer or anybody in authority tells them to when they grow up, you can look back on this and blame yourself. maybe you can even stand over their gravesite and wish they had done what they were told . the only one who has an authority /power problem is her. thats a big part of the problem in this country. alot of people dont want to do what they are told. its called the payback from the 60's. ya reap what ya sow! zap her FOR REAL THIS TIME! which by the way i dont believe he did . ive seen enough of these, including a 230 pound attitude adjustment, google that on youtube its pretty funny , to know she didnt get it, otherwise she would have been flat on her face or back like rigor mortis set in . not kneeling, she is DRAMA QUEEN period .

This is a sad statement of the mindset that our country is currently muddling through.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

When did it become "stupid" in America to get out of ones of personal vehicle on a public thoroughfare while dealing with a law "enforcement" officer?

It was stupid because it wasn't in the best interest of her children's safety. There is no reason not to cooperate with and obey authorities, when they make a request. To do otherwise puts the authority on the defensive, and rightfully so. It was stupid for her to stand in the road and argue with the cop. It was stupid to not just sign the ticket and protest it in court later.

Are they so rogue that you should expect this treatment for an action that breaks no law?

I'm just not really into this whole idea of the Big, Bad Policemen who are out to get us and beat us up at every opportunity. When I get stopped, my reaction isn't to prove a point or see if my rights are infringed upon, but to admit that I did wrong, and take the consequences. (A ticket for speeding.) If I disagree with something, it can be politely addressed, and if the policeman isn't agreeable, it can be addressed LATER in court.

Further, this woman KNOWS whether or not she was speeding. Whether the cop can show it on the clock or not is irrelevant. If she was going 5 miles/hr. over the limit, he has a right to issue a ticket. To act otherwise is simply dishonest.

Are we not THE PEOPLE?

Should we not demand that our officers only arrest people for breaking the law?

I have a feeling there are laws about cooperating with a police officer. If there aren't, there should be, for the safety of the police officers trying to do their jobs, AND the safety of the citizens. (Like the children who were in the back seat.) Cooperating with a police officer is SMART, simply because there may be some who take advantage of their authority, and it's stupid for a woman in particular to test that, especially if her children may be endangered by her actions.

In general, I think law enforcement officers should be appreciated for doing their jobs, and the bad boys are not as prevalent as Hollywood and television would have us believe.

In this case, I also think the policeman overreacted, without a doubt! But his overreaction doesn't negate Ms. Harmon's stupidity.

[oletime]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

No, she didn't.

There are SOME that do deserve it, but this lady DID NOT.

He's a jerk.

i cant believe anyone can defend this woman. she didnt obey any orders she was given when they were given. she was told "get in the car". she didnt, she was told "get out of the car" she didnt. they were lawful orders it doesnt matter ou think or she thinks,when someone with a badge says do it,then do it. discuss it later with his boss. what the man says do! end of problem,he is the authority,same as a parent or pastor. who by the way could probably benefit from having a taser at their disposal JUST KIDDING on the last part !