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Old 01-21-2009, 08:32 PM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray

I have absolutely no dog in this fight. Actually, my Canadian "white" ancesters smuggled the black slaves accross the border.

But the "whites" started to do right long ago. 1969 they did right. The "whites" have been working to right the wrongs of thier ancesters for many years now.

There are still bigots yes... there are people here in my country who speak derogatively toward the Aboriginal (that's the PC term for Indian) people... but I wouldn't like it if an Aboriginal was voted in as our first Prime Minister and a fellow aboriginal made the "white do what's right" comment in his prayer.

The aboriginals were treated poorly in this country... the history is there and cannot be changed. Racism and bigotry will likely always have a head somewhere... you can't stamp out something like that completely. Sin is sin. Hate is hate.

But things have changed and are changing.

As I said before... I don't know this Reverend's motives. I prefer to think he was just trying to come up with a good rhyme and didn't think it through.

I still do not think it was a good thing to say. It only brought more strife back to the surface.

America just freely elected thier first African American President. It think the "whites" have spoken just as clearly as any other color has.
The past is past, the future is clear, and the "whites" are doing right.

(and Barb, you know I abosolutely love you and am in no way taking sides.. just giving my unbiased Canadian opinion)
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:33 PM
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I think we should all just be Americans.
Well be reminded how WHITE Americans...ALL OF THEM are racists because of what some of them did
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It's not that the word is "right" he used...It's that he implied white people don't do right and need to. Whites are all to blame.
I agree. Sorry my post wasn't clear.
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I have absolutely no dog in this fight. Actually, my Canadian "white" ancesters smuggled the black slaves accross the border.

But the "whites" started to do right long ago. 1969 they did right. The "whites" have been working to right the wrongs of thier ancesters for many years now.

There are still bigots yes... there are people here in my country who speak derogatively toward the Aboriginal (that's the PC term for Indian) people... but I wouldn't like it if an Aboriginal was voted in as our first Prime Minister and a fellow aboriginal made the "white do what's right" comment in his prayer.

The aboriginals were treated poorly in this country... the history is there and cannot be changed. Racism and bigotry will likely always have a head somewhere... you can't stamp out something like that completely. Sin is sin. Hate is hate.

But things have changed and are changing.

As I said before... I don't know this Reverand's motives. I prefer to think he was just trying to come up with a good rhyme and didn't think it through.

I still do not think it was a good thing to say. It only brought more strife back to the surface.

America just freely elected thier first African American President. It think the "whites" have spoken just as clearly as any other color has.
The past is past, the future is clear, and the "whites" are doing right.

(and Barb, you know I abosolutely love you and am in no way taking sides.. just giving my unbiased Canadian opinion)
White people died too trying to get those civil rights because they were associated with blacks...I wonder how they might feel,dead, being told thye did not do right.

Im sorry but that is a negative sweeping generalization no matter how anyone tries to explain it away as the only word that rhymed with white...

Hey, why not sa "And white makes might"? That would have went over well. How about "And whites helpin us fight"?
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:37 PM
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray

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I agree. Sorry my post wasn't clear.
Yeah, it's ok. It's just that this is simple and it was made emotional with the various charges going back and forth. What the man said was a sweeping generalization of a negative connotation cast on whites. What does someone have to gain by trying to deny that? lol I just don't understand
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:38 PM
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White people died too trying to get those civil rights because they were associated with blacks...I wonder how they might feel,dead, being told thye did not do right.

Im sorry but that is a negative sweeping generalization no matter how anyone tries to explain it away as the only word that rhymed with white...

Hey, why not sa "And white makes might"? That would have went over well. How about "And whites helpin us fight"?
I wish he had thought it through just a teeny bit more.
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I wish he had thought it through just a teeny bit more.
I think he did think it through. That was rather deliberate. It didn't take me more than one read to see that it was negative lol
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Yeah, it's ok. It's just that this is simple and it was made emotional with the various charges going back and forth. What the man said was a sweeping generalization of a negative connotation cast on whites. What does someone have to gain by trying to deny that? lol I just don't understand
Possibly just a different point of view. Since not all "whites" (fact is I'm a true white...I don't tan a lick) on AFF took it as inflamatory... it must mean we just see things differently.
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I think he did think it through. That was rather deliberate. It didn't take me more than one read to see that it was negative lol
I know zip about this man who prayed. Maybe if I knew more about him personally and his past I might feel stronger a certain way.

I just know it wasn't a smart thing for him to say. I'm sorry he said it.
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Re: I shocked at the White remark in Lowery's pray

It so happens that none of my ancestry had slaves. Not for 500 years at least. So I am guilty for what, being white?
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