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Old 03-28-2007, 08:08 AM
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Nope.

I was being somewhat facetious, sorry.


Lighten up.
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:10 AM
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By the way, Pastor Epley, I want to apologize to you for my racist comment the other day.

It truly was an emotional response, and I should have tempered my comments.
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:13 AM
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By the way, Pastor Epley, I want to apologize to you for my racist comment the other day.

It truly was an emotional response, and I should have tempered my comments.
No I think it was warranted my post was not very well thought out and it could have been seen as such. I had no intent but rereading it I saw it could be taken offensive particularly those of Latin extraction. Not one of my finest moments. I certainly did nto mean it to be racist but if you make stupid statements then you suffer the consequences.. But I learned a lesson I hope.
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Old 03-28-2007, 08:40 AM
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It seems to me that there are outside auditors as a matter of course.
There also is a budget committee from the General Board that goes over every departments finances and reports their findings at each General Board meeting.
It is true the deficit is about 500k - if one were to look through their financial reports they may find some of the numbers. I don't have them although I would think any Sup't who wanted them could probably get them by asking.
If you have seen the budgets, what is the main source of expenses? Rooms? Travel????
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:04 AM
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If you have seen the budgets, what is the main source of expenses? Rooms? Travel????
Probably the arena or conference center....
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:16 AM
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I will be attending the GC this year.

Instead of the $100 to $400 that I normally give voluntarily in all offerings, in the aggregate, I will only pay the $25.00 that I am compelled to pay.

Not UPC basing, but we are witnessing the gradual demise (as we have known it) of a once great organization. I believe the beginning of the demise began in 1992. So sad. I hope that they pull out of their mess. This particular mess is only symptomatic of much deeper, systemic problem(s).

Only an opinion.
IF you take such a stance, you will hurt every department you gave to and not make a statement.

Funny, they never tell what % of the offerings they actually receive. Having been in a district position once, I know first hand some churches pledge and DON'T give. The problem is they depend on book sales for supporting the GC, and they cut the traffic to the book area down to where sales are way off. They are quite agressive about vendors in the sales area having registration- sad since many of the workers never see a single service. (confirmed from someone I asked who is there from 8 AM-11PM for all the days and does not see but one service if that)
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:19 AM
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If you have seen the budgets, what is the main source of expenses? Rooms? Travel????
PPH- or what ever it is called now. They used to have the exhibits next to the arena, and moved them away from the arena "to save costs" a few years back. This destroyed foot traffic.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:51 AM
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I will be attending the GC this year.

Instead of the $100 to $400 that I normally give voluntarily in all offerings, in the aggregate, I will only pay the $25.00 that I am compelled to pay.

Not UPC basing, but we are witnessing the gradual demise (as we have known it) of a once great organization. I believe the beginning of the demise began in 1992. So sad. I hope that they pull out of their mess. This particular mess is only symptomatic of much deeper, systemic problem(s).

Only an opinion.
I don't understand the attitude.

Surely what you'll receive as a result of being in those services is worth more than $25.00?
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sad since many of the workers never see a single service. (confirmed from someone I asked who is there from 8 AM-11PM for all the days and does not see but one service if that)
This is wrong. Just plain wrong far as I'm concerned!
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Well now that they have said you don't have to vote to go to the business that is all I will go to. I will go and vote and come home. I can do without the all night offering thing anyway.
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