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Old 05-21-2007, 09:22 PM
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I already raised this issue...it was ignored I think
Well, I figured someone had. I'm not surprised that it was you. LOL.

I just didn't feel like digging through the whole thread with a limit on time.

points like this usually get ignored...unfortunately.
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:23 PM
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Well, I figured someone had. I'm not surprised that it was you. LOL.

I just didn't feel like digging through the whole thread with a limit on time.

points like this usually get ignored...unfortunately.
lol...don't worry about it. I think someone else raised it before me too haha
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:27 PM
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I remember hearing a teaching Years ago that the reason we shouldn't wear Jewelry is because when Satan fell from Heaven, All the Jewels that made up his very being was also casted out of heaven onto earth. So, wehn we wear earthen jewels, we take on that which was cursed

the gold that was used to build solomon's temple and the ark was supernaturally gifted from heaven thus the glory that was renderd?


anyone hear of this doctrine ??? what do you think of it ? Or do you Teach it? have you heard of it ?
I think its "hearsay" and should be filed away as such. It certainly has no biblical basis.
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:28 PM
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lol...don't worry about it. I think someone else raised it before me too haha
It was most likely put aside as well.....
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:28 PM
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What should we do about Jesus' teaching here??

Luke 15:22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:
The ring in that day and time represented authority, not adornement in that case. It showed the acceptance of the son and his restoration to his place in the father's house.
Clearly the line of reasoning doesn't stop here for the succession of the events show that the father not only wanted his son to look a certain way, he gave him authority as well. Further, he put shoes on his feet that elevated his position so to speak from where it was.
In those days as history has read (at least what I have studied) servants went barefoot. The best houses had shoes for the family so again this demonstrated his ready acceptance back to the family.
Wasn't trying to make a large exegesis here, but I love the story of this son.
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:31 PM
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The ring in that day and time represented authority, not adornement in that case. It showed the acceptance of the son and his restoration to his place in the father's house.
Clearly the line of reasoning doesn't stop here for the succession of the events show that the father not only wanted his son to look a certain way, he gave him authority as well. Further, he put shoes on his feet that elevated his position so to speak from where it was.
In those days as history has read (at least what I have studied) servants went barefoot. The best houses had shoes for the family so again this demonstrated his ready acceptance back to the family.
Wasn't trying to make a large exegesis here, but I love the story of this son.
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Run this by us again please. Im having a hard time understanding what your reasoning is for why Jewelry is a sin yet Jesus can use a ring in a way that says the exact opposite. In other words if it was wrong why use this parable? Surely he could use a parable that did not teach by example that a ring is not to be considered sinful to wear
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:33 PM
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Thad the passage is Ezk 28:12-19
It speaks of all the precious stones that were his covering then it says his heart was lifted up BECAUSE OF THY BEAUTY!

Thus jewelry and pride are partners in the original sin.
Elder, I have to conclude from what you are constantly expressing on AFF that you believe God is an inconsistent God.
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:35 PM
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Run this by us again please. Im having a hard time understanding what your reasoning is for why Jewelry is a sin yet Jesus can use a ring in a way that says the exact opposite. In other words if it was wrong why use this parable? Surely he could use a parable that did not teach by example that a ring is not to be considered sinful to wear
I've never said it was a sin. Nor does my post come across that way. That's probably why you didn't see it in there.
Seriously, for me it is a personal conviction as I have already previously stated. Ranks right up there with tv for me. I won't have either.
Will I condemn others for not having the same conviction as I hold?
I am not their judge. I will allow God to do that.
I do teach that it is better to shun these things since they do have worldly connotations IMO. I do not feel that they contribute to godliness one iota. Do you?
Which of you having jewelry has become more godly since obtaining them?
Isn't the fashion of this world something to avoid?
My convictions.
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:41 PM
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The ring in that day and time represented authority, not adornement in that case. It showed the acceptance of the son and his restoration to his place in the father's house.
Clearly the line of reasoning doesn't stop here for the succession of the events show that the father not only wanted his son to look a certain way, he gave him authority as well. Further, he put shoes on his feet that elevated his position so to speak from where it was.
In those days as history has read (at least what I have studied) servants went barefoot. The best houses had shoes for the family so again this demonstrated his ready acceptance back to the family.
Wasn't trying to make a large exegesis here, but I love the story of this son.
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Me too as I spent 16 years in a pigpen myself.


I agree that rings shouldn't be for frivilous adornment's sake, likewise I don't feel it wise to go to great expense in any case.

However, I do see where a modest ring can have it's significant function in denoting authority and purpose.

Obviously a ring in itself is not sinful, but rather it's purpose and costliness can be.
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Old 05-21-2007, 09:41 PM
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Jewelry is forbidden by Paul in NOT wearing gold or pearls. Jewelry in itself is not evil however human nature as it is it promotes pride. Satan fell because of pride his BEAUTY caused it and it was connected with jewels.
"Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth." (1Cor.8:1) I guess we should avoid getting knowledge as well, eh?
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