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11-21-2008, 07:00 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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I can say the same for you. 
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11-21-2008, 07:02 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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How right you are, holy woman! Can you believe some of the preachers on this forum wear neck ties to adorn their bodies? And some of the unholy women are going to church without nylons?
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I have never seen such. Are you just teasing?
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11-21-2008, 07:41 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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I'll probably get in trouble for saying this...but I have to say what's right...
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If you ever want to say something to me that you feel might get you banned.
You are always welcome to speak to me in private.
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I'm not angry with you personally Bro EB (I don't really know you),
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At me? I never think anyone is angry with me, I believe they are angry at typed words, and thoughts that come across their monitor screens.
Nothing is personal, because everyone outside of ourselves are out of our control. We cannot force, or demand anyone to accept or believe what we believe. Nor, can we ever change anyone's mind. The only person who can change anyone's mind is ourselves. We take in the information and process the information, and then it's all on us. We cannot blame pastors, teachers, fathers, mothers, siblings, or God. It's all on us. If we were sitting together, at a Bible study table at Barnes & Nobles, we would have a great time.
I have no doubt of that. It is the typed word that comes across as black and white. When I add my humor to it, sometimes it comes across like number 3 grit sandpaper. I will always apologize for hurting someone's feelings, but won't apologize for presenting the Truth. I feel strongly about the whole xmas thing being false, and make no bones about it. I teach my church family the same, and my family. I have many preacher friends who do xmas, and they know my opinions. Again, you cannot force or "make" anyone believe what you believe. It's that simple. I just present what I know, and to my best to refute what I think is way too bizarre to be of Christ. 
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but I don't appreciate it being insinuated that I'm (or anyone else on this forum for that matter) is a pagan, Catholic, or idolator merely because we have Christmas trees. We don't worship them, nor are we Catholic. To say such is to tell an untruth, a slanderous untruth.
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You are being way to dramatic, and the reason is this. The xmas is Catholic in it's origin, and has trimmings from at least 20 different pagan rituals. Those are stone cold facts. You want a tree? Do as you please, but don't get offended when someone tells you like it is. If a non-Christian walked up to you and wanted to know all about your faith, and started to tell you the origins of the xmas, would you get upset? Or tell him that, yes, it originated with the Eastern and Western Orthodox churches, which borrowed from different pagan rituals. Believe me, they smile and want to know more.
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That's the truth.
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Truth is fact that cannot be shut down.
Be blessed
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11-21-2008, 07:56 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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I have never seen such. Are you just teasing?
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No mam, I aint teasin! I always look at the womens legs to see if they have nylons and some dont!
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11-21-2008, 07:59 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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EB, just a minor correction--there are quite a few non-Pentecostals who don't do Christmas (and other holidays), as well as liberal "anti-standard groups." There are quite a few conservatives and ULTRA cons who do Christmas with great enthusiasm.
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Sister, I was giving my observations of the years of posting in these "No xmas" threads and watching the "No Standards" crew fight the hardest when it comes to the Moloch Bush.
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Regardless, your statement doesn't make sense. A person who believes in remaining silent where the Bible is silent and not weighing people down with unnecessary rules is probably going to believe that way about Christmas and other holidays. It's consistent for a liberal to be liberal about holidays. |
Sis, you missed what I was saying completely I assure you.
Let me put it this way, someone who is against standards, and will try hard to show how standards are unnecessary, will turn around and defend something that is clearly NOT IN THE BIBLE? That is way too odd.
In Jesus name
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11-21-2008, 08:44 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
Maybe this has been posted before,
But couldn't this whole issue be considered one of those issues were Paul talks about people being weak and strong in their conscience.
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11-21-2008, 08:54 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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Btw, I agree with you that Christmas is extra-Biblical. I just don't agree that "extra" comprises un- or anti-Biblical. My laptop is extra-biblical.
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Do you make the laptop part of a ritual that commemorates or celebrates an event in the Bible? The laptop will be part of a festival that points to an event of the life of Jesus Christ. This laptop will be passed down through generations and only be used at a certain date?
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Voting is extra-biblical.
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Voting is part of a system of goverment, and if you are part of that goverment then you make a choice to vote. In the simplest of terms brushing your teeth is not in the Bible, yet we don't make the event of brushing our teeth part of our Christian experience (maybe you do?) Yet, with voting, that has nothing to do with the Christ, and it's secular. Are you saying that the xmas is secular?
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Hanging photos of my kids on the wall is extra-biblical.
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Do those pictures have anything to do with the celebration of any event in the Bible? Do you take those pictures and use them during a festival, that commemorates or celebrates any event in the Bible? Are you using them as a part of ancestor worship? Do you take them down and hang them on the xmas tree, tie a palm leaf around them durning Palm Sunday?
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Just because something isn't mentioned in scripture does not mean it is inherently bad. It doesn't mean that we can't take a worldly, pagan, and/or secular day and give it new, positive meaning for our household.
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So you are saying that we are free to make it up as we go along? The Catholics also use the very same argument when discussing the rosary, and the Eastern Orthodox when speaking of Icons (Eastern Orthodox attribute Luke to painting the first Icon.) Therefore by what you are saying above anyone is free to do whatever is right in their own eyes, just as long as it has a good meaning or a profitable purpose? Sounds like a Pentecostal Talmud in the making. Coming close to what we find contained in the Talmud?
The Church Fathers, debated during councils and voted on what should be added to their liturgies. Funny how nothing ever changes.
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Furthermore, I don't know of anyone who bows down and worships their tree. Putting one in my house doesn't mean I've turned it into an idol. I pass right by it and never bend a knee. If it's truly an idol, it must be awfully offended when we sing Christian songs right next to it at the piano.  |
Can you do without the tree? Can you do without the decorations?
Would you be able to not have a tree or any kind of decoration this December coming up?
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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11-21-2008, 08:57 PM
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
Can you do without the tree? Can you do without the decorations?
Would you be able to not have a tree or any kind of decoration this December coming up?
What does that have to do with anything? You don't have to eat vegetables either, but there is nothing wrong with it.
You have an opinion that for YOU putting up a tree is wrong. I accept that. You need to accept not all of us agree with YOUR interpretation of scripture.
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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What does that have to do with anything? You don't have to eat vegetables either, but there is nothing wrong with it.
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I ask MB the question Esther. 
Anyway do you eat the tree after the New Years, or before?
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You have an opinion that for YOU putting up a tree is wrong. I accept that. You need to accept not all of us agree with YOUR interpretation of scripture. |
It not my opinion if xmas has nothing to do with Christ, it is a fact, and really shouldn't be up for discussion. We discuss it here because it's fun.
In Jesus name
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Re: We're Not Putting X-Mas Trees Up!
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Do you tell the truth to those you love? Emma can tell the truth in a way that I cannot. And I think it is a good thing.
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I understand.
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