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Pressing-On · #**661** 04-29-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

PO...

I do not know how true this is... but my dads neighbors are common law... and she is moving out and she told me that she is trying to work the relationship out because her attorney told her that it is a common law state and common law is considered marriage after 2 yrs so everything is split even with them not being legally married. Now she is known to be a drunk and talk out of her mind at times but this is what I have heard this week.

My BIL has a common law wife. No comments on that, except, glad I don't see them very often.

I thought it was after 6 months you were considered common law in Texas.

Pressing-On · #**662** 04-29-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

They don't in Ohio anymore either. I thought there were still some states where they did. Maybe the blood test is a thing of the past.

I think it is.

ChristopherHall · #**663** 04-29-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

PO...

I do not know how true this is... but my dads neighbors are common law... and she is moving out and she told me that she is trying to work the relationship out because her attorney told her that it is a common law state and common law is considered marriage after 2 yrs so everything is split even with them not being legally married. Now she is known to be a drunk and talk out of her mind at times but this is what I have heard this week.

My grandmother was common law married to her second husband, my step granddad, here in Ohio. They never had a formal "marriage", "marriage license", or "marriage certificate". Yet legally she was entitled to his estate as his "wife" and "widow".

Marriage is obviously a personal and complex issue.

Nina · #**664** 04-29-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

I think the only thing the government can do is prosecute those who had sex with minors and then allow these folks to go home and live as they wish, keeping the sex between consenting adults.

Brother,

Warren Jeffs is in prison as an accessory to rape. He wasn't anywhere around when the rape occurred but was involved, indicted and incarcerated!

Nina

Pressing-On · #**665** 04-29-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

Exactly. All this is very close to using government to persecute a fringe religious belief. Only those who had sex with under age girls have committed a crime. Living with multiple women and believing polygamy is "freaky" or "perverted" but it's not criminal.

I think the only thing the government can do is prosecute those who had sex with minors and then allow these folks to go home and live as they wish, keeping the sex between consenting adults.

Right so after we ran the gamut - it would have been better to have left them alone.

They believe what they believe and that's it. Even after persecuting the ones that engaged with minors they would still do it again, I'm thinking.

Okay, Newman!

ChristopherHall · #**666** 04-29-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nina

Brother,

Warren Jeffs is in prison as an accessory to rape. He wasn't anywhere around when the rape occurred but was involved, indicted and incarcerated!

Nina

He wasn't prosecuted because he believed in polygamy or lived with multiple women. He was prosecuted for sodomizing young boys, sexual misconduct with a minor, and coercing and threatening young girls into these "spiritual marriages" and teaching that it's right to do so.

Nina · #**667** 04-29-2008, 11:21 PM

Newman and Christopher,

What else could Texas have done?
At what point did they err.

Nina

Nina · #**668** 04-29-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

He wasn't prosecuted because he believed in polygamy or lived with multiple women. He was prosecuted for sodomizing young boys, sexual misconduct with a minor, and coercing and threatening young girls into these "spiritual marriages" and teaching that it's right to do so.

I believe he's in prison only for the last charge You listed.
Which is what he has done with the women in Eldorado.

Newman · #**669** 04-29-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I am very glad this thread was started and even though I have had little time to post it has been very enlightening how people feel about this subject.

Hahaha Were you surprised to find me defending polygamists given my reputation as a feminist among some on this forum?

ChristopherHall · #**670** 04-29-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nina

Newman and Christopher,

What else could Texas have done?
At what point did they err.

Nina

I'm not absolutely sure if they erred. I can see how they felt the need to round up the entire community to find those who broke the law with minors. The question will be how do they treat those who are not guilty of any crime? Will they allow them to just go home or will they try to "re-educate" or break them up over their religious beliefs?