Was it necessary to repeal DADT?

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

IMO-Nature (reproduction)

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

Unnatural

Procreation and Un-natural....both weak arguments. We aren't here to just have kids and Un-natural compared to what? What the Bible says? With out the Bible and the guidelines in it you'd not know what was or wasn't exaclty natural or not. You don't know the stove eye is hot until you feel the heat. You don't know that it is un-natural unless something or someone tells you. You might not feel it is natural for you, but you can't make a blanket statement like that.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

what was your response in a nutshell..before its deleted.

My response was that you have a screw loose. How about going to listen to a sermon, by a preacher, that was prepared on a computer that was also used to look at porn or child porn? Seriously man....

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge

what was your response in a nutshell..before its deleted.

Do not go there.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Procreation and Un-natural....both weak arguments. We aren't here to just have kids and Un-natural compared to what? What the Bible says? With out the Bible and the guidelines in it you'd not know what was or wasn't exaclty natural or not. You don't know the stove eye is hot until you feel the heat. You don't know that it is un-natural unless something or someone tells you. You might not feel it is natural for you, but you can't make a blanket statement like that.

COMPLETELY disagree with this, but don't have time to get into it right now, need to get to bed.

But, yeah, people in the darkest jungles figure it out. Male + female is the natural order of things.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I think it has a lot to do with the point, because the non-Christians who attended probably didn't have a problem with homosexuality.

So, the discussion is - Christians, who believe that it's a sin - should they attend?

The non-Christians weren't showing unconditional love if they didn't have a problem with it in the first place.

I know for a fact that there were several there who weren't crazy about the idea of them getting married.

I was raised in a culture that refused to eat at restaurants that served alcohol because it would be supporting the industry. We wouldn't shop in grocery stores that sold alcohol for the same reason.

But alas, pretty soon there weren't any restaurants or grocery stores that didn't serve or sell. So, there went that conviction.

Point is, many thought it was a show of support to patronize those businesses. That may sound silly now but not then. But is it support to dine at a restaurant that serves alcohol or has a bar? If I'm not drinking alcohol, not getting drunk, what difference does it make?

If I'm there at the wedding to love and support an individual, did I sin? No. Did I endorse their actions, especially when I had told them I couldn't violate my conscience? I just can't understand how unconditionally showing my love and support to someone is anything besides Christlike.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

COMPLETELY disagree with this, but don't have time to get into it right now, need to get to bed.

But, yeah, people in the darkest jungles figure it out. Male + female is the natural order of things.

Not all the people in the "darkest jungles" figure it out. You can disagree if you want because it is only my opinion versus your opinion.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Tim's idiotic post about watching movies pedophiles make...and our response to it.

A post of Tim Rut was censored? What a shocker.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

I know for a fact that there were several there who weren't crazy about the idea of them getting married.

I was raised in a culture that refused to eat at restaurants that served alcohol because it would be supporting the industry. We wouldn't shop in grocery stores that sold alcohol for the same reason.

But alas, pretty soon there weren't any restaurants or grocery stores that didn't serve or sell. So, there went that conviction.

Point is, many thought it was a show of support to patronize those businesses. That may sound silly now but not then. But is it support to dine at a restaurant that serves alcohol or has a bar? If I'm not drinking alcohol, not getting drunk, what difference does it make?

If I'm there at the wedding to love and support an individual, did I sin? No. Did I endorse their actions, especially when I had told them I couldn't violate my conscience? I just can't understand how unconditionally showing my love and support to someone is anything besides Christlike.

Best thing I have heard on here in MONTHS, maybe YEARS!

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

A post of Tim Rut the Nut was censored? What a shocker.

Yeah no ...kidding.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I can know that I wouldn't approve of homosexuality if I wasn't a Christian because many of my arguments against it have nothing to do with 'Because God said so'.

But you can't deny that your opinions have been, at least, partially shaped by the Christian culture, can you? It seems hard to say what we would have done if we had been raised in a completely different way.