Bishop SC Johnson

[BelievesJesus]

Originally Posted by warrior

That doesn' surprise me. He was very dogmatic in his teachings. Those teachings still live on today and he's been dead some 60 years. The congregation hasn't moved beyond that yet. Those teachings include:

Women should wear cotton stockings
They should always wear a hat at all times
They are unable to relax or perm their hair
The hair must be kept in a net at all times
They can only wear blue, green, black, brown, grey and white
No long sleeves
No splits in skirts
No short sleeves
Shoes must be grey, blue and black( even on your wedding day)
Of course no pants on women
Men must wear solid color ties
Women must wear solid colored clothes

The list probably goes on, and I just don't know it.

Bishop Johnson passed away on February 22, 1961 which makes him deceased for 50 years.

Women should wear cotton stockings. Or stockings that are thick since every woman is not able to get cotton stockings. Tights are permissible. A sister in our church actually suggested the cotton stockings and not Bishop Johnson. He agreed. The cotton stockings today are not as thick as they use to be but still many wear them. There now other stockings thicker than the cotton stockings.

They should always wear a hat at all times. Not true. Hats (or headcoverings) are to be worn when the females pray and/or prophesy.

They are unable to relax or perm their hair. True. Wash, dry, style your hair simply and go on. No straightening of your hair like flat ironing/pressing either.

The hair must be kept in a net at all times. Not true. Females do not have to wear hairnets but some do.

They can only wear blue, green, black, brown, grey and white. The colors worn are black, white, any shade of gray, dark green, dark blue and dark brown. There are many variations of those colors too where one have many choices.

No long sleeves. No we are to wear long sleeves. We can roll our sleeves up if one is cleaning and whatnot. Sleeves do not have to be all the way down to your wrist. I believe 2-3" off is permissible.

No splits in skirts. No long splits. Most women suits have splits and many sisters wore suits.

Shoes must be grey, blue and black ( even on your wedding day). Not true. Black or brown leather shoes. Some job professions, one may have to wear white shoes. This is allowed and one must keep their shoes clean. I wore black shoes on my wedding day. I also know of a sinner who wore black shoes on her wedding day. She got married last month actually. What was the meaning of mentioning about wedding day?

Of course no pants on women. True nor shorts.

Males must wear solid color ties and females must wear solid colored clothes. True about the ties. Males AND females must wear solid colors.

I don't know why these "statues" for lack of better word so to speak bothers you. Warrior you complain about this on Good News and you brought it on over here. Alright, you don't believe what Bishop Johnson preached, move on. Why does his preachings irks you so? I don't let what others believe get to me, why do you? I just respond to this to clear a few things up. I am not going to "debate" over what Bishop Johnson preached and what was going on in his time or what's going on now. You go ahead and do your thing and leave those of Bishop Johnson alone. I am not starting anything about your beliefs. I am leaving you be.

[johnny44]

Were you also under Bishop Shelton?

[warrior]

BelievesJesus,

I'm going to say that is certainly not the truth. People of your fold are always challenging the beliefs of others all the time. They (including Bishop Johnson) call names quite frequently. They call people liars, false prophets, satan, demons and call their churches false churces.

I like the way you look like you are being attacked and your church members are so innocent.

I know the victim mentality gets a lot of attention, but not here. So, your beliefs are what they are. That is fine, but please don't act like you all don't go around talking about what others believe and practice. That would be a total untruth!!!!

Also, this is a public forum to discuss topics that are relevant to the apostolic church and movement. Feel free to discuss or keep moving.

[ThePastorsCoach]

This is addressed to BelievesJesus:
I have visited the church in Philadelphia (while preaching in the area) several times and noticed women coming in and draping something white that looked like a net or a table cloth over them and sitting there under it for a long time. What is that about?

It was announced that the Bishop (not sure what his name was) was resting in (I think they said the Upper Room) because he had been on a long trip and was just getting in. I think he spoke from another place to them one time I was there.
The building seats 5000, is it every full? There was less than 100 people there on the Sunday's I was there. Massive building - very few people.
I heard Bishop Shelton say one time on radio "I am going to make a special dispensation, put your hands on your head, bring me my golden slippers, bring me my golden slippers!" What was that all about? He also addressed his "sons" as Prince 1 or Prince 2 I think. How many of those Son's or Princes did he have?

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

This is addressed to BelievesJesus:
I have visited the church in Philadelphia (while preaching in the area) several times and noticed women coming in and draping something white that looked like a net or a table cloth over them and sitting there under it for a long time. What is that about?

It was announced that the Bishop (not sure what his name was) was resting in (I think they said the Upper Room) because he had been on a long trip and was just getting in. I think he spoke from another place to them one time I was there.
The building seats 5000, is it every full? There was less than 100 people there on the Sunday's I was there. Massive building - very few people.
I heard Bishop Shelton say one time on radio "I am going to make a special dispensation, put your hands on your head, bring me my golden slippers, bring me my golden slippers!" What was that all about? He also addressed his "sons" as Prince 1 or Prince 2 I think. How many of those Son's or Princes did he have?

Now that is funny................

[johnny44]

I visited the church in Philadelpia also. It was packed out.I believe that's a covering for when they pray.I think the first Apostles use to hang out in the upper room too.Paul had sons in the Gospel.if I remember correctly.All Kings have princes hanging around them don't they?

[Apprehended]

I greatly love the dear old Bishop. I did not know him personally but would listen to him on the radio in New Orleans when I lived there in the 1950s. Shortly after he died in Jamaica, I attended the church just after Bishop S. McDowel Shelton assumed the headship of the church. It was packed to overflowing. While I was there I bought some tapes which I still have.

Did I say that I loved the old Bishop? I did. Why? Because of his stand on the Acts 2:38 New Birth experience and the very clear understanding of the godhead and who Jesus is. Standing for those things, he had a backbone as strong and stout as an Oak saw-log.

Did I say that I loved the old Bishop? Yes, I did. Soon, I am going to see him in glory. His neck will be one of the most beautiful that I shall hope to hug and tell him "Thank you, Bishop. You helped me to love it too."

[Hoovie]

Golden slippers!!! Bring me my Golden Slippers!!!!

Sorry folks, that's really funny!

[johnny44]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Golden slippers!!! Bring me my Golden Slippers!!!!

Sorry folks, that's really funny!

Mine are blue.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

...Did I say that I loved the old Bishop? I did. Why? Because of his stand on the Acts 2:38 New Birth experience and the very clear understanding of the godhead and who Jesus is. Standing for those things, he had a backbone as strong and stout as an Oak saw-log. ...

His understanding of the godhead and who Jesus is??

Didn't the Bishop teach

Jesus was born human
after His baptism, God entered into Him
on the cross God left Him
3 days later God came back into Him

so He wasn't God until the age of 30
and He wasn't God during the 3 days in the grave