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Old 11-09-2007, 09:22 PM
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Great post, Vicki! My grandfather was a pastor his entire adult life. He lived a pretty frugal lifestyle in comparison to many in the ministry, but he invested his money wisely and when he passed my grandmother didn't have to worry about anything when it came to her financial future.

Most of the family was shocked when they heard of all the real estate and other investments he had acquired through the years. When he was alive, they drove the same two cars for as long as I could remember, because he didn't see a need to spend money on a car when the ones he owned were still working.

One of the first things that my sweet, humble grandmother did after his passing was to go and pay cash for that brand new Cadillac she had wanted for years. Oh, she also had a complete make over, which included cutting her hair, jewelry and she wore make up for the first time. I guess that was just her way of expressing herself, since she really didn't have that opportunity while my grandfather was alive. BTW, she has since mellowed and found balance, thank goodness...[/QUOTE]

One of the saddest thing I have ever read.
My post wasn't meant to sadden anyone. My grandfather was COG through and through and he held to the "standards" of the old COG before the mid 1970's that mirrored many of the standards in Apostolic churches. My grandmother never saw those things as being an issue, but being his wife she submitted to his wishes.

I knew that my grandfather struggled with the Oneness doctrine by reading many of his personal notes and in his bible after he passed. One of the things that he had written in his bible next the Acts 2:38 was "very hard to explain". His oldest daughter who was the second in our family to get baptized in Jesus name after me had attended the UPC church for decades and had many conversations with him on the subject. Aunt Betty had married my uncle who was UPC and she believed the message and played the piano at their church, but wasn't baptized until my grandfather died. Additionally, I didn't go back to an Apostolic church after being baptized at 15 until after his death. My grandfather was a man that we all loved and respected very much. It was from that love and respect that we did what he wished, especially not wanting to upset him in his later years while he battled cancer.

If it wasn't for his long affiliation and the obvious commitment that he felt toward the COG denomination, I believed he would have accepted the truth. You've heard it said that people who were the biggest opponents of certain ideas or lifestyles were usually the ones who were unsure of their own. That would have been applicable to my grandfather and the Apostolic doctrine.

Today, nearly half of my grandfather's children and grandchildren are Apostolic.
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Old 11-10-2007, 01:41 AM
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J. Cox....and lest I be misunderstood, I am not against anyone being blessed or living large. The majority of the posts on the thread were about the charismatics lavish lifestyles. I am simply pointing out that "we" have the same thing going on. Anyone ever been to NW's multi-million dollar home?
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