PAW Is Crumbling!!!Bishop Noel Jones is leaving too! - Page 6

Sandra · #51 10-17-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

That is a lie. I have never heard anyone preach that there are "Three God's and you have not either.

exactly!!

Ferd · #52 10-17-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandra

Many are leaving with them

It is my most sencere hope that every hariy tick in the bunch leaves!

If the PAW falls to 15 churches, they will be better off.

Thad · #53 10-17-2007, 10:51 AM

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Pass along my reguards and tell him I said thank you for leaving instead of draging the PAW into the pit.

WOW!! FERD! that's pretty strong words there ! ! ! !

Thad · #54 10-17-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

It is my most sencere hope that every hariy tick in the bunch leaves!

If the PAW falls to 15 churches, they will be better off.

FERD!!!!!!!!

:reac tion

Sandra · #55 10-17-2007, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

It is my most sencere hope that every hariy tick in the bunch leaves!

If the PAW falls to 15 churches, they will be better off.

I don't really care, I just trust these GREAT men of GOD. I think change is good in many cases.

ThePastorsCoach · #56 10-17-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

AB, you are right we should not call trinitarians 3 godders, we should call them skitozphrinic.

I was raised in Trinitarian Pentecost and was saved and filled with the Holy Ghost at the age of 5. I started preaching at 16 and held my first license to preach at age 16. I was educated in "Trinitarian" Bible Colleges. I have never heard a "Three God" message in my life.
It is by the grace and mercy of God that I received the Revelation of Jesus Christ and know Him as the Mighty God. I am thankful that I was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and I identify with HIM as my Messiah, Lord and God. It is a shame that we want to resort to name calling and bashing to lift up out theological position.
IMHO - Most in the Oneness movement - have been TAUGHT Oneness Theology and Wesleyan Holiness Ideology and have NEVER had a true Revelation of Jesus Christ. They know Him with head knowledge but not in a true Revelation of who He is!

Ferd · #57 10-17-2007, 10:55 AM

I am sure you dont Sandra. They clearly are great. they have churches with 25,000 people so they are great at something.

however, it is way beyond clear that their doctrine is nowhere near what the PAW once was.

lets be honest GT Haywood, while not a legalist has been spinning in his grave for at least a decade over what has been going on in the organization he founded.

Sandra · #58 10-17-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

I am sure you dont Sandra. They clearly are great. they have churches with 25,000 people so they are great at something.

however, it is way beyond clear that their doctrine is nowhere near what the PAW once was.

lets be honest GT Haywood, while not a legalist has been spinning in his grave for at least a decade over what has been going on in the organization he founded.

I just sang at their National Conference this year, I sing at many PAW churches.
Many of those PAW preachers associate with non-oneness preachers.
Its all good, God is up to great things.

Ferd · #59 10-17-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

I was raised in Trinitarian Pentecost and was saved and filled with the Holy Ghost at the age of 5. I started preaching at 16 and held my first license to preach at age 16. I was educated in "Trinitarian" Bible Colleges. I have never heard a "Three God" message in my life.
It is by the grace and mercy of God that I received the Revelation of Jesus Christ and know Him as the Mighty God. I am thankful that I was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and I identify with HIM as my Messiah, Lord and God. It is a shame that we want to resort to name calling and bashing to lift up out theological position.
IMHO - Most in the Oneness movement - have been TAUGHT Oneness Theology and Wesleyan Holiness Ideology and have NEVER had a true Revelation of Jesus Christ. They know Him with head knowledge but not in a true Revelation of who He is!

You have a wonderful testamoney. i dont agree with your assessment of Oneness people though.

I dont see trinitarians as 3 God believers, but I do find it quite difficult to keep a straight face when they get to talking about 3 persons and such.

I know One God who has saved my eternal soul. I am doubly thankful that 4 generations ago, a Wesleyan Methodist Holiness lady found the Truth of Oneness and recieved the Holy Ghost. my great grandmother was a preacher of this wonderful Truth and I am saved today because of it.

I believe it is no coincidence that it was Holiness people that God moved on in the early part of the 20th century.

ThePastorsCoach · #60 10-17-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandra

I don't really care, I just trust these GREAT men of GOD. I think change is good in many cases.

I agree totally and if I were in it - I would leave too! These organizations are antiquated and totally outdated. Both the UPC and PAW are TOP HEAVY!

The days of following some hierarchal potentate and subscribing to outdated theology of the early 1900's - just because somebody SAYS SO - is over for the most part. The good guys - the progressive guys - will leave and let them keep playing their gospel games and thinking they are the ONLY ones with TRUTH!
There will always be those that continue to sip the kool aid and think they are the ONLY ones that are gonna make it.