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Old 04-17-2007, 10:23 PM
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Grace and peace be unto you in the name of our God and Father, the Eternal Judge, the Lord Jesus Christ.

The Lord is truly sounding the shofar in this hour. Who will listen? Who will heed? Is there not an ear open to what the Spirit is trying to say to us in this hour?

Judgment is coming, and coming swiftly. Those caught up in the sins of this world will be caught up in the judgments thereof. Those who have made a consecration in their heart will see the judgment, but it shall not nigh unto their homes. They will see it, but not experience or partake in it.

Church, are we ready? Some yes, but not all. We had better get ready.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:41 AM
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Do you think that this man's word carries the same authority?

How will you know that some bad calamity is judgment from God???? Remember 9/11?
Do you know believe that God speaks through His people today?

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I thought God used vessels to speak through.
He does!

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Anytime something bad happens people start referring to preachers warning of bad things.

Since a lot of preachers preach that any given Sunday when bad things do happen someone can claim divine pre knowledge.

Kind of like the folks who think Hurricanes are judgement from God.

And you don't?

The VA Tech shooting are America's biggest mass murder in the form of shooting but not too far behind the nut in the 1990's who drove his pickup in to a Luby's in Killeen Texas then proceeded to shoot about 25 people to death.

That incident was the impeteus for many Southern states enacting "carry" laws. If some sane person in that restaurant had been carrying a licensed revolver he or she was trained to use they might could have killed the guy before he killed 25 people. Same thing in the VA tech incident. It is a shame most college professors are liberals. If they all were trained with pistols and had them they could have stopped this guy early on.
I am concerned with several posters that are no longer a part of the organization that seems to have lost their belief in God speaking to His people through His people. Those that seem uncomfortable everytime judgement is mentioned.

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Old 04-18-2007, 09:50 AM
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You have a good memory, Malvaro.
i have a pretty selective memory.... i just "selected" to try and remember that.... many other things I forget within just mere days....
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:43 AM
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Do you know believe that God speaks through His people today?



He does!



I am concerned with several posters that are no longer a part of the organization that seems to have lost their belief in God speaking to His people through His people. Those that seem uncomfortable everytime judgement is mentioned.

JMO

Esther, thank you for your concern though I think it is misguided.

My point is simply that there have been momentous catastrophes throughout history. Some are natural disasters like hurricanes and earthquakes and others are man made like World War II and it's concentration camps where millions of jews were exterminated.

I am not excluding the possibility that God can send corporate judgement on a group of people but I tend to think that in the New Covenant people are going to be judged and dealt with individually. Some here on earth as well as in the great white throne judgement.

If Iran gets a nuclear weapon and wipes Israrel off the face of the map is that God's judgment? I tend to think it would more be a work of the devil through militant Islamic nuts.

I am just very careful about labeling every bad thing that comes along as a judgement from God. I know people who do that at the drop of a hat.

I have no doubt that America may indeed be weeping sometime soon and not traveling by aircraft. However if it is due to another terrorist attack are you going to claim that is the judgemetn of God? If it is by Islamic terrorists I would say it is of the devil!!!!
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Old 04-18-2007, 11:16 AM
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Esther, thank you for your concern though I think it is misguided.

My point is simply that there have been momentous catastrophes throughout history. Some are natural disasters like hurricanes and earthquakes and others are man made like World War II and it's concentration camps where millions of jews were exterminated.

I am not excluding the possibility that God can send corporate judgement on a group of people but I tend to think that in the New Covenant people are going to be judged and dealt with individually. Some here on earth as well as in the great white throne judgement.

If Iran gets a nuclear weapon and wipes Israrel off the face of the map is that God's judgment? I tend to think it would more be a work of the devil through militant Islamic nuts.

I am just very careful about labeling every bad thing that comes along as a judgement from God. I know people who do that at the drop of a hat.

I have no doubt that America may indeed be weeping sometime soon and not traveling by aircraft. However if it is due to another terrorist attack are you going to claim that is the judgemetn of God? If it is by Islamic terrorists I would say it is of the devil!!!!
I understand what you are saying. However, I do believe God uses/allows however you want to say it, evil people to accomplish His goal.

I don't think that everything that happens is of God either.

But when I hear prophecies given and confirmation given then, yes I believe it is of God.

I believe there is more very destroying Hurricanes coming that will be judgments of God.

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Old 04-18-2007, 02:51 PM
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I understand what you are saying. However, I do believe God uses/allows however you want to say it, evil people to accomplish His goal.

I don't think that everything that happens is of God either.

But when I hear prophecies given and confirmation given then, yes I believe it is of God.

I believe there is more very destroying Hurricanes coming that will be judgments of God.

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Doesn't the Bible say God used Pharoah?
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Old 04-18-2007, 03:29 PM
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My problem with this line of 'prophesy" is that it has been consistantly said for the last 100 years.

eventually America is going to fall. History tells us that all nations that rise to power and greatness eventually fall.

so what every guy is prolcaiming the judgement of God at the moment America falls gets to be right. even if he isnt.

Therefore, I reject them all, while at the same time saying "the day cometh"
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Old 04-18-2007, 03:51 PM
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My problem with this line of 'prophesy" is that it has been consistantly said for the last 100 years.

eventually America is going to fall. History tells us that all nations that rise to power and greatness eventually fall.

so what every guy is prolcaiming the judgement of God at the moment America falls gets to be right. even if he isnt.

Therefore, I reject them all, while at the same time saying "the day cometh"
Didn't Noah preach for 100 years that it was gonna rain?
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:04 PM
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one of our associates taught the adult class today and told how the LOrd spoke to him as clearly as he has ever heard his voice. it was not just a thought but it was a word from the LOrd that America is getting ready for a time of Great sorrow.

when this person hears from the Lord I sit up and listen. He really hears from God and our pastor trust him too. He is not fluff, just a plain guy a straight shooter. He;'s told me things and it was always on

anyhow, he said he say a time coming soon when no one will be flying anywhere, no one will be taking holidays, all the planes will be empty, the vacation resorts will be empty, it will be a time of great terror.

I am sitting here trying to remember all that he said . I'll post more as it comes but it really has shaken me up. somehow I felt a witness in my spirit that this was true.
I was in San francisco Yesterday and i kept saying and thinking " Lord how long are you going to let all this sin go on and let our nation get by with this" and then here we are with today's bible study. I guess that was my answer.

the nation and church will be Judged according to this minister for the sins of our nation

any thoughts ? is this too negative to talk about ?
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And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.


And If God was to judge, why would he not judge Godless nations that kill Christians?

The USA is very Jesus believing and evangelistic.

God will have to take the Church out of the away like Lot in Sodom.

I do not see God hurting his bride.
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Old 04-18-2007, 04:19 PM
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I also want to add.....

I had a dream, I trust from God, back in the early 90's before the gulf war.

I too saw no cars or planes.

The city of Norfolk, VA was walking through the underwater tunnels to Portsmouth,VA in suits, carrying brief cases.

I then was setting in the Portsmouth City Library.

I looked out the window and saw a Helicopter on the Landing pad.

I can believe in the prophecy.....But NOT Judgment.

Babylon will be destroyed in an Hour.

This could be the after affect. Which will bring sorrow to the world economy.
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