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Old 03-02-2007, 01:44 AM
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God placed two witnesses in Naaman's life it looks like He is trying to speak to you. Maybe there is hope???????????? You worried about 'standards' and going to a Presbyterian church??????????????????? You should praise Gid He is still sending folks your way. Next thing might be the strong delusion.
A strong delusion because I don't agree with standards.
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:18 AM
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A strong delusion because I don't agree with standards.
We're living in the last days Berk there are a lot of delusions out there,find yourself a good Apostolic church and save yourself from this untoward generation!
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Old 03-02-2007, 08:50 AM
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A strong delusion because I don't agree with standards.
No sir the delusion would come from attending a Presbyterian Church. Stay long enough and a delusion will get you. They preach a delusion.
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Old 03-02-2007, 10:00 AM
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No sir the delusion would come from attending a Presbyterian Church. Stay long enough and a delusion will get you. They preach a delusion.
And this from someone who preaches out of a book translated by people he insists are not saved.
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Old 03-02-2007, 10:03 AM
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And this from someone who preaches out of a book translated by people he insists are not saved.
Translating and interpeting are two different things.
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Old 03-02-2007, 10:16 AM
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Translating and interpeting are two different things.
Translation does sometimes involve a certain amount of interpreting. For example, the addition of the word italicized "duty" in the King James Version of Ecclesiastes 12:13. There is no corresponding word in the Hebrew text and adding the word does not affect the gramatical correctness of the passage in English. Then there's the phrase "was with God" in John 1:1. The Greek phrase is more properly translated along the lines of "pertaining to God," "pertaining to deity," "with regard to God," or "with regard to deity" much the way the same Greek phrase was translated in Hebrews. There's also the addition of what the KJV has as 1 John 5:7. What was added does not appear in any Greek text prior to the one Erasmus produced in the 16th century (which, in turn, was based on an edition of Jerome's Latin Vulgate).

While I'm not sure you use modern translations (you seem to be one of those "KJV only" preachers), there is the issue of that method of translation called "dynamic equivalence" or "thought-for-thought" translation. That method relies on a great deal more interpretation than "literal" or "word-for-word" translation that is known as "formal equivalence." The "translators" in dynamic equivalence translations (after presuming to know how the Bible writers thought) try to "translate" how the Bible writers thought into how we might think today.

All of this is being done by people you believe are not saved. It is inconsistent for you to rely on unsaved people to translate God's word for you.
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Old 03-02-2007, 10:19 AM
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Translation does sometimes involve a certain amount of interpreting. For example, the addition of the word italicized "duty" in the King James Version of Ecclesiastes 12:13. There is no corresponding word in the Hebrew text and adding the word does not affect the gramatical correctness of the passage in English. Then there's the phrase "was with God" in John 1:1. The Greek phrase is more properly translated along the lines of "pertaining to God," "pertaining to deity," "with regard to God," or "with regard to deity" much the way the same Greek phrase was translated in Hebrews. There's also the addition of what the KJV has as 1 John 5:7. What was added does not appear in any Greek text prior to the one Erasmus produced in the 16th century (which, in turn, was based on an edition of Jerome's Latin Vulgate).

While I'm not sure you use modern translations (you seem to be one of those "KJV only" preachers), there is the issue of that method of translation called "dynamic equivalence" or "thought-for-though" translation. That method relies on a great deal more interpretation than "literal" or "word-for-word" translation that is known as "formal equivalence." The "translators" in dynamic equivalence translations (after presuming to know how the Bible writers thought) try to "translate" how the Bible writers thought into how we might think today.

All of this is being done by people you believe are not saved. It is inconsistent for you to rely on unsaved people to translate God's word for you.
You mean there are no unicorns or leviathans?????
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No sir the delusion would come from attending a Presbyterian Church. Stay long enough and a delusion will get you. They preach a delusion.
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No sir the delusion would come from attending a Presbyterian Church. Stay long enough and a delusion will get you. They preach a delusion.
service is in spanish.. I don't understand much of what is being said..
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service is in spanish.. I don't understand much of what is being said..
I wouldn't understand much if it was in English. Why in the world are you going to a denominal church to begin with???????????
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