Did Russians Hack the Election? - Page 6

Originalist · #51 12-19-2016, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Jfrog, 17 agencies in America's intelligence community have reviewed the data, much of which we are not privy to, and agreed that the evidence points to the Russian's having hacked and having used that information to influence our election process.

Are you a Russian sympathizer? While most don't realize it, this was an act of cyberwarfare that was orchestrated against our country.... and you're siding with the Russians???

Why don't you move to Russia? Vets and true patriots like me will stay here.

So why want they release their findings?

Originalist · #52 12-19-2016, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Jfrog, 17 agencies in America's intelligence community have reviewed the data, much of which we are not privy to, and agreed that the evidence points to the Russian's having hacked and having used that information to influence our election process.

Are you a Russian sympathizer? While most don't realize it, this was an act of cyberwarfare that was orchestrated against our country.... and you're siding with the Russians???

Why don't you move to Russia? Vets and true patriots like me will stay here.

Aquila · #53 12-19-2016, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jito463

You skipped over the first link, which explains how Ted Kennedy colluded with the USSR to oppose Reagan in '84.

So, Ted Kennedy got a case of stupid and colluded with the Russians and you think that justifies this? First, the Russians didn't act on Kennedy's offer. In fact, Andropov died 8 months after the offer. The Russians hacking into party servers and influencing an election is ILLEGAL. It's an act of war. Don't you get it? If the Russians would have staged a terrorist attack on the U.S., making it look like al Queda for the purpose of benefiting a candidate, I assume you'd be up in arms. However, they conduct an act of cyberwar and you yawn your way through it like it is nothing.

Well, that's why men like me are vets and actually served our nation. We know threats when we see them.

Please note, while I'm a Democrat and feel that Hillary would be the better candidate out of those who ran (though I'd prefer Bernie). Frankly, I think the Electoral College should deny Trump the Presidency and hand it over to Congress to vote on another Republican. I'd prefer Sen Rand Paul or Cruz over this traitor any day.

Aquila · #54 12-19-2016, 03:49 PM

We have 17 different agencies in the Intelligence community agreeing that it was the Russians (now including the FBI). They are privy to all the information involved, even the classified information. And I'm supposed to believe Originalist and other news "commentators" who also don't know all he facts over them??? ROFL!!!!

Aquila · #55 12-19-2016, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist

So why want they release their findings?

Ummmm derr, duuuhhh..... ummmm....

Because it would demonstrate a degree of our capabilities with regards to reverse engineering a cyperattack. If their findings were release, Russian intel would go into overdrive to examine how the information was gained. Then they would take measures to prevent that from happening again.

For all we know.... we have a way into the servers of every Russian serving in the Kremlin, including Putin himself. Do we really want to compromise that??? To get the American people to believe 17 intelligence agencies who are tasked with gathering these kind of data and protecting the U.S.???

Aquila · #56 12-19-2016, 03:53 PM

Frankly, you guys trust the Russians more than the agencies who gather data and assist with defending the United States on a daily basis.

That's scary. And in my mind, that's treason.

Originalist · #57 12-19-2016, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Frankly, you guys trust the Russians more than the agencies who gather data and assist with defending the United States on a daily basis.

That's scary. And in my mind, that's treason.

Jito463 · #58 12-19-2016, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

So, Ted Kennedy got a case of stupid and colluded with the Russians and you think that justifies this? First, the Russians didn't act on Kennedy's offer. In fact, Andropov died 8 months after the offer. The Russians hacking into party servers and influencing an election is ILLEGAL. It's an act of war. Don't you get it? If the Russians would have staged a terrorist attack on the U.S., making it look like al Queda for the purpose of benefiting a candidate, I assume you'd be up in arms. However, they conduct an act of cyberwar and you yawn your way through it like it is nothing.

Well, that's why men like me are vets and actually served our nation. We know threats when we see them.

Please note, while I'm a Democrat and feel that Hillary would be the better candidate out of those who ran (though I'd prefer Bernie). Frankly, I think the Electoral College should deny Trump the Presidency and hand it over to Congress to vote on another Republican. I'd prefer Sen Rand Paul or Cruz over this traitor any day.

Riddle me this, Aquila. You seem to be up in arms over this issue, of the possibility that Russia "hacked" our election system (in truth, the only thing that was actually hacked was the DNC e-mails, which just revealed the truth, but I digress). Tell me, were you this upset when Obama directly interfered in Israel's election process, by pouring money in the campaign of Netanyahu's opponent?

Israel is our ally, and Obama used *OUR TAXPAYER MONEY* to try and interfere in their election.

So, were you upset with him? Were you even aware of that? If not, are you upset now?

Just trying to determine a baseline for you.

Jito463 · #59 12-19-2016, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

So, Ted Kennedy got a case of stupid and colluded with the Russians and you think that justifies this?

That wasn't the question. You said:

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Originally Posted by Aquila

I don't know of a single Democrat who "loves" Soviets, Castro, and Che. That's all Republican propaganda.

I gave you a specific instance of a high profile Democrat, who directly attempted to collude with the Soviets. And that's not even the only case I could bring up, just the most prominent one. So now you know of at least one.

Charnock · #60 12-20-2016, 11:32 AM

The hand-wringing over Russian hacking of our Presidential election process is silly for two reasons:

1. There's no proof.
2. The charge is hypocritical.

Last year Obama visited Britain and actively campaigned against them leaving the EU. He threatened them in the process, stating that a vote to "Brexit" would permanently damage the US/UK relationship.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...istoric-decis/

This year the Washington Times and other media outlets reported that Obama sent US taxpayer's money to an Israeli group who opposed the election of Benjamin Netanyahu (who was eventually elected anyway). Additionally, Obama publicly stated his opposition and openly disparaged Netanyahu.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ust-netanyahu/

Again, there is no evidence that Putin or Russia have conducted themselves in a similar fashion. The media and Democrats, without proof, act as though Russia physically changed the vote totals in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Putin never visited the US to campaign against Hillary. There's no evidence he funneled money to Trump's campaign. However, if he had done so how could Obama and the Dems, with a straight face, complain?

The truth is someone did hack the DNC. Neither the DNC nor Hillary deny that the hacked emails weren't altered. Those emails revealed that Podesta, Hillary, and her staff dislike Christians and white men. They also revealed collusion to destroy evidence of her crimes.

Russian election tampering? I'm not buying it.

The headlines should read "Hackers reveal DNC Corruption."