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View Poll Results: Will a person who has obeyed Acts 2:38 but continues to lie and steal be saved?
Yes, He will be saved. He's obeyed Acts 2:38 0 0%
Yes, God is a gracious God and all of us have sinned since we were saved. 0 0%
No, he must repent or he will be lost. 25 86.21%
Maybe, but he's taking his chances. 4 13.79%
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:45 PM
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Would "lying" include preaching for doctrine the commandments of men?

Just to clarify....



I know you didn't!!
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:47 PM
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Thank you for your response, Most Noble Admin StMatthew.

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Romans 6: 1-14 (NLT)
Well then, should we keep on sinning so that God can show us more and more kindness and forgiveness? 2 Of course not! Since we have died to sin, how can we continue to live in it? 3 Or have you forgotten that when we became Christians and were baptized to become one with Christ Jesus, we died with him? 4 For we died and were buried with Christ by baptism. And just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father, now we also may live new lives.
5 Since we have been united with him in his death, we will also be raised as he was. 6 Our old sinful selves were crucified with Christ so that sin might lose its power in our lives. We are no longer slaves to sin. 7 For when we died with Christ we were set free from the power of sin. 8 And since we died with Christ, we know we will also share his new life. 9 We are sure of this because Christ rose from the dead, and he will never die again. Death no longer has any power over him. 10 He died once to defeat sin, and now he lives for the glory of God. 11 So you should consider yourselves dead to sin and able to live for the glory of God through Christ Jesus.
12 Do not let sin control the way you live; [fn1] do not give in to its lustful desires. 13 Do not let any part of your body become a tool of wickedness, to be used for sinning. Instead, give yourselves completely to God since you have been given new life. And use your whole body as a tool to do what is right for the glory of God. 14 Sin is no longer your master, for you are no longer subject to the law, which enslaves you to sin. Instead, you are free by God's grace.



If one continues to be bound by sin, it is because they have refused the power of Christ available to them that breaks every bondage and frees the believer.
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:49 PM
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So, we are asked to judge a man's eternal damnation based on assumptions?
no, Berk there is NO body being judged because nobody is being talked about. It's hypothetical
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:51 PM
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Would "lying" include preaching for doctrine the commandments of men?

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That's not at all how I was thinking of it!
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I know you didn't!!


Ah, you know I did!

I am going to be in Murfreesboro on the 8th of July, preaching one of the services that day.

If you can get there, I would love to meet you. It is not necessary that you attend the service I am preaching....
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:54 PM
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Ah, you know I did!

I am going to be in Murfreesboro on the 8th of July, preaching one of the services that day.

If you can get there, I would love to meet you. It is not necessary that you attend the service I am preaching....
Hmmmm. It's about 3 1/2 hours from here. I worry about my vehicles making it that far and back. The last time I made that trip I ended up having to call someone to come get me. I will see what I can do to make it though.
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Old 06-15-2007, 10:59 PM
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Hmmmm. It's about 3 1/2 hours from here. I worry about my vehicles making it that far and back. The last time I made that trip I ended up having to call someone to come get me. I will see what I can do to make it though.
If I can help, let me know.
I know it would be a hardship, but I really would like for us to get together.
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Old 06-15-2007, 11:02 PM
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Now you know why they say:

"Liar, liar, pants on fire!"
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Old 06-15-2007, 11:03 PM
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If I can help, let me know.
I know it would be a hardship, but I really would like for us to get together.
I'd really like to meet you too. Well, I will see what I can do to pull this off. I will get back with you.
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Old 06-15-2007, 11:10 PM
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That's not at all how I was thinking of it!

Uh, has this post been edited by the poster, or at least, "clarified"?

I seem to remember there being more to it.
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