"For the doctrine of the Trinity magnificently expresses the truth that God is love (1Jn 4:8,16). Love isn’t merely an attribute God has. Nor is love merely an activity God does. Love is what God eternally is.
Love can only exist between persons, which is why only a God who eternally exists as a community of persons can be said to be love in and of himself."
The problem with this argument, imo, is that Boyd is saying that the essence of God is love. Without love God would not be God. Love is part of God's DNA, so to speak. It's both who and what He is.
Therefore for Boyd to continue on and say that love can only exist between persons is denying that God is essentially love. Because if God is in essence love, then love exists because God exists and it doesn't matter if God is unipersonal or multipersonal.
It is the expression of love that needs an object of affection (another person) to exist and not love itself. God can even express love toward another in his mind because of his foreknowledge and imagination without the object of his affection having actual existence.
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here is the thing. the offering is an invalid argument. its based on an assumption.
That assumption being that the unlimited God is limited if that God is not triune.
we dont need to get all complicated here. its lunacy and there is not a shred of evidence to back up the acertion. periood.
I really don't understand your "unlimited" argument.
God does have limitations. He can't make a rock too heavy for him to throw. God can't lie. He can't go against who he own character.
Can God be love if he is unipersonal? I don't see why not. Just like he can be just or good, or any other attribute and not have to be triune.
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Re: For God to be love, He has to be a Trinity!?!
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
The assumption is that one "judges" for the purpose of making themselves look good.
How far removed is our way of thinking than that of the Apostolic New Testament Church we read about. 1 Cor 5:3-5
Paul follows up with this:
While todays Church puts all the stress on comforting the sinner, being nice to them in hopes they will be moved by our kindness.
The Apostles feared that sin if unchecked would rapidly spread to others. In America and various places this has happened a long time ago to where now even the very mention of righteousness and holiness causes Church people to cringe. After repentance there is plenty of time to comfort the restored one. However let us not make them feel comfortable and accepted in their sin.
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To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
I really don't understand your "unlimited" argument.
God does have limitations. He can't make a rock too heavy for him to throw. God can't lie. He can't go against who he own character.
Can God be love if he is unipersonal? I don't see why not. Just like he can be just or good, or any other attribute and not have to be triune.
Gods limitations are self imposed. the trick of the rock to big to pick up is silly.
my point is that how God loves cannot be limited by some arbitrary man made condition.
Gods personhood (boy thats a silly thing to talk about imho) is irrelevent to the subject. God is love. period. it is not because he is triune. it is not because he is unipersonal. It is because he is.
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I find generally those who are stuck in the "trinity" mindset are there because they are trying to understand God through human reasoning... and that is where they have missed the mark. Trying to fit God into the laws and finite understanding that we humans have is really dangerous ground. God doesn't exist within the parameters of the world we live in. Staunch 3-person Trinitarians are stuck on trying to understand God within the limitations of the world we live in.
THERE IT IS! Quoting from the gospel according Boyd!
What does that mean? I didn't quote anything that has to do with what Boyd says about the gospel.
What do you think the gospel is?
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
I find generally those who are stuck in the "trinity" mindset are there because they are trying to understand God through human reasoning... and that is where they have missed the mark. Trying to fit God into the laws and finite understanding that we humans have is really dangerous ground. God doesn't exist within the parameters of the world we live in. Staunch 3-person Trinitarians are stuck on trying to understand God within the limitations of the world we live in.
That's true to a certain extent. They see the man, Jesus, praying to his Father and see two distinct persons. They know that Jesus is God and the Father is God, and then they surmise God consists of at least two persons. It makes sense until you bring the rest of the scriptures into the mix.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
That's true to a certain extent. They see the man, Jesus, praying to his Father and see two distinct persons. They know that Jesus is God and the Father is God, and then they surmise God consists of at least two persons. It makes sense until you bring the rest of the scriptures into the mix.
My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. 
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