God is well able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we can ask or think. But BG causes folks to feel that they have arrived, and as a consequence causes many to stop their pursuit of God.
Not saying that some will not follow on to know the Lord. But I do believe he promotes a false hope that many will stop at, thinking they are ok.
I can't accept your small mindedness when it comes to what God can or cannot do. If the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is preached and folks place their faith in Jesus Christ for salvation as a result, I believe there is power in the preaching of the cross. I'm sorry that you don't. It's too bad that God won't allow you to be God, eh? He is very capable of leading those who have truly come to Him into a lasting relationship that results in a fruitful life in the Spirit.
If you can't see that a minister proclaiming salvation over someone that aint saved could cause them to have a false hope that they have arrived, then there ain't no sense in me taking more time in it.
I have never stated that God cannot draw folks out, but he will not make them come. And BG causes many to stop moving forward because they believe they are already saved. He gives them a false belief of salvation, thereby stopping them from pressing into real salvation.
But I am wasting my fingers, as I am Water & Spirit, and you are not.
I can't accept your small mindedness when it comes to what God can or cannot do. If the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is preached and folks place their faith in Jesus Christ for salvation as a result, I believe there is power in the preaching of the cross. I'm sorry that you don't. It's too bad that God won't allow you to be God, eh? He is very capable of leading those who have truly come to Him into a lasting relationship that results in a fruitful life in the Spirit.
If you can't see that a minister proclaiming salvation over someone that aint saved could cause them to have a false hope that they have arrived, then there ain't no sense in me taking more time in it.
I have never stated that God cannot draw folks out, but he will not make them come. And BG causes many to stop moving forward because they believe they are already saved. He gives them a false belief of salvation, thereby stopping them from pressing into real salvation.
But I am wasting my fingers, as I am Water & Spirit, and you are not.
That's right Matt. We're not water and Spirit. You are. Right, how could I have forgotten that?
I got saved so to speak under BGs ministry. So I and thousands of others no doubt are a total contradiction to what you are stating here.
__________________ Smiles & Blessings.... ~Felicity Welsh~ (surname courtesy of Jim Yohe)
This thread wasn't started about his doctrine but his life...
Well you ought to know by now that a life lived sold out to God doesn't count and neither does the preaching of the Gospel unless it comes from a bonafide W/S adherent/believer.
__________________ Smiles & Blessings.... ~Felicity Welsh~ (surname courtesy of Jim Yohe)
Well you ought to know by now that a life lived sold out to God doesn't count and neither does the preaching of the Gospel unless it comes from a bonafide W/S adherent/believer.
You believe in baptism in Jesus' name and the infilling of the Holy Spirit. You believe it's essential. I'm sure BG is well aware of this doctrine. If he rejects it does he not reject Jesus?
You believe in baptism in Jesus' name and the infilling of the Holy Spirit. You believe it's essential. I'm sure BG is well aware of this doctrine. If he rejects it does he not reject Jesus?
Show him NO MERCY ... Felicity ... give him the PCI smackdown ... get Matrix on his sorry PAJC keyster.
If you can't see that a minister proclaiming salvation over someone that aint saved could cause them to have a false hope that they have arrived, then there ain't no sense in me taking more time in it.
I have never stated that God cannot draw folks out, but he will not make them come. And BG causes many to stop moving forward because they believe they are already saved. He gives them a false belief of salvation, thereby stopping them from pressing into real salvation.
But I am wasting my fingers, as I am Water & Spirit, and you are not.
BG cannot stop anyone from being saved that God wants to save. REAL salvation? I don't care what you are, salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and a gift from God. It's not BG who draws a person to salvation, it is the Holy Spirit. I have heard Pentecostal preachers who didn't give as clear a message as BG does yet the Spirit still drew folks to the altar.
I don't agree with anyone who tells someone they are saved simply because they repeated a sinner's prayer, no more than I agree with those who tell people they are saved simply because they spoke in some unintelligible language. Only the fruit of a spirit-filled life is evidence of a truly born again believer. Tongues can be a "sign" that someone has received the baptism of the Holy Spirit, but because not all tongue talking is genuine, if the "sign" doesn't lead me to the "evidence", then I have my doubts.
I don't care what you are, salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and a gift from God. It's not BG who draws a person to salvation, it is the Holy Spirit. I have heard Pentecostal preachers who didn't give as clear a message as BG does yet the Spirit still drew folks to the altar. 
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