I think it's the principle of it: It's choreographed movement set to music, which is essentially what dancing is. And there are much more exuberant sign and dowel songs than that one. If you observe the bodily movements and ignore the hands and dowels, then yes, it could be called dancing.
Mind you, I'm not opposed to it at all. I'm agreeing with Renda, though, that it's a bit inconsistent to accept all the sign/dowel stuff and then if you take away the hands or dowels, suddenly it's wrong.
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You guys (APs) ever do the flag thing? Made the rounds in the AG a while back. Our pastor's wife started waving them around once, in an altar service. I think everyone else was just confused.
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You guys (APs) ever do the flag thing? Made the rounds in the AG a while back. Our pastor's wife started waving them around once, in an altar service. I think everyone else was just confused.
What kind of flags?
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The ones the pastor's wife used were plain, solid color flags on sticks, if I remember right. But check out this web site! Turns out there's a whole arsenal of these things, great for spiritual warfare, I kid you not!
The ones the pastor's wife used were plain, solid color flags on sticks, if I remember right. But check out this web site! Turns out there's a whole arsenal of these things, great for spiritual warfare, I kid you not!
I don't know of any UPC churches that allow stick dancing or synchronized dancing in the church.
I think the confusion comes in when you see the video with girls in sleeveless low cut tops and dancing, it goes against all the UPC always stood for.
Ummm...my church has a youth stick drama team. I'm the director. We use white gloves, white covered sticks and black lights. We do moves with the sticks but it could hardly be called dancing. We've been doing this for several years. It is kinda out of style now but my pastor likes it and so do my kids so we still do a couple songs per year.
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The ones the pastor's wife used were plain, solid color flags on sticks, if I remember right. But check out this web site! Turns out there's a whole arsenal of these things, great for spiritual warfare, I kid you not!
The ones the pastor's wife used were plain, solid color flags on sticks, if I remember right. But check out this web site! Turns out there's a whole arsenal of these things, great for spiritual warfare, I kid you not!
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