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Old 01-24-2011, 03:56 PM
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Some of us take seriously Jesus teaching about who he is. Therefore to us this is not "systematic theology". It is life. It is our joy. It is our mission to know all we can about the one who has delivered us from darkness and brought us into the marvrlous light of his truth. We are willing to contend for him.

You think Oneness doctrine comes close but say we cannot answer the mystery. The mystery of who Jesus is? There are many things we dont know about in this vast Universe. Things YHWH has not made known in his word to us.

Who Jesus is is not witheld from us but given through the teachings of Jesus himself and the Apostles.

To say the Church is unified on the deity of Christ is true in this sense that the Oneness Faith IS unified as to Jesus is the Everlasting Father and the begotten Son.

This is heresy to both Trins and Arians.

Go make disciples? That exactly what I have endeavored to do for many years and still laboring.
Tell me where he systematically explained who He is or instructed that as the chief goal of the Church?

We get occasional responses like: "I and my Father are One." "He that has seen me, has seen the Father." This, to people, who were trying to figure out who he.... a prophet, a good man, a zealot... the Messiah?

Debating over godhead theology ad infinitum is certainly life for some, and that's the sad part. That's not what we were called to do. And it's certainly arrogant of any person to suggest they have it all figured out.

I'm sorry MTD, but our mission is NOT to articulate better theology. Our mission is to make disciples and to proclaim the good news of what God has done through Christ. Those discussions can be fun, exciting --- but they are not the mission, and should not be a point of division for the Body.

What you say for "Oneness faith" hasn't even been recorded as being articulated until the last 100 years, and has about 100 different shades and perspectives (there is no solid agreement).

"Making disciples and teaching them all your personal theologies about how you understand the godhead" is not our calling. "Making disciples who follow Jesus and make other disciples" is.
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:00 PM
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Instead of "folks let's go over there and rescue them with the truth!" its the usual "isolate your people from opposing ideas because our doctrines can't stand any scrutiny!".
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Paul ... the best thing about this thread is the fact that it will get more visibility on Google and other search engines than your site's article ...

You may want to look into some SEO.
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AFF has helped to ruin me!!

I used to be a "yes" man to any and all teachings, and now I have the audacity to question if something is truth or not! Shame on me!
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Instead of "folks let's go over there and rescue them with the truth!" its the usual "isolate your people from opposing ideas because our doctrines can't stand any scrutiny!".
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I greatly enjoyed their diverse "Arts & Entertainment" section on the site
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:08 PM
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Paul ... I see you returned some of the Kal Boora stories on the site ... except for your last interview ...

You know .... the one you hailed as the "missing link" ...

Kudos on placing the Amazon affiliate links so as to profit on the spurious works/books.

Truth just doesn't matter.
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:11 PM
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Paul is also involved with the Rock's Bible school, which they got Hope to sign-off on somehow. AST has banners and advertisements all over that site.

AN has become a press release for the local church there in Elk Grove and the WPF.

What creatives helped with their banners, by the way? Everyone's Apostolic? Apostolic Live?

The featured blogs are 70% Rock Church pastors. Coskun and Baumeister are Rock Church members.
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:13 PM
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Paul is also involved with the Rock's Bible school, which they got Hope to sign-off on somehow. AST has banners and advertisements all over that site.

AN has become a press release for the local church there in Elk Grove and the WPF.

What creatives helped with their banners, by the way? Everyone's Apostolic? Apostolic Live?

The featured blogs are 70% Rock Church pastors. Coskun and Baumeister are Rock Church members.
Propaganda ... for the non-TV watchers who have access to the filth of the Internet ... and apparently read it.
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Propaganda ... for the non-TV watchers who have access to the filth of the Internet ... and apparently read it.
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