I was raised in the south where when I was a child black people were called negros. Then they said they didn't like that and they wanted to be called colored people. Then they didn't like that and they wanted to be called "Black". So I never thought the N word was negative, any more than I think Hispanic is negative. It was just the way that race was referred to.
Working on the family tree I think we have the 57 Hines variety blood type.
I don't consider myself a racist. I see people for what they are. One of my very closest friends is a black as she can be. I spend the night in her home and vice versa. In fact, she introduced me to someone recently as a part of the family. That had to be a hoot, because I am as about white as white can be. lol
I did not like Clinton or what his administration did, but it wasn't racist. It was the same as OB, I didn't like his agenda.
I don't trust OB, I just disliked Clinton. I do not believe OB is an American. He was not raised in America to have the American values. IMO
No offense, but if you still believe he is not a citizen, then it taints everything else you say.
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Re: One leader of the Tea Parties Mark Williams
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I agree that there are plenty of other terms without racial connotations, BUT to call a lazy, stupid white person - "white trash" - is a very passionate way of saying, "You are a pretty worthless white person in society."
It's very expressive, doncha' think?
Yeah, but that's different. If you are white it's Ok to call you anything that comes to your head. Just call me sir!
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No offense, but if you still believe he is not a citizen, then it taints everything else you say.
I believe he has no true love for our country. That's not because of his color but because of his philosophy. I believe he out to ruin our country. There are a lot of black men that would have been great in his place. There is one word tha describes him to a T. That is arrogant. Ever notice how he treats the military who is on duty when he enters or leaves the plane. Compare his attitude with that of our other presidents. Especially President Bush. O hardly gives them a look.
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PO, I would just as soon see the word magically disappear, but I do not agree with your assessment of people calling people that devoid of racist undertone.
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Of those three choices, the one most often would be a term of endearment. It is usually not with negative or racist implication or undertone.
So, you mean by your first statement that it's only a racial undertone if used by someone that is not black?
So, you mean by your first statement that it's only a racial undertone if used by someone that is not black?
I disagree with the position that someone who is not black uses the word in a negative way without there being racial undertones. I said earlier that I know that younger white and black kids use the word even to each other as friends...I also said that I did not agree with that.
However, it is not unusual that "bad" words are viewed differently depending on who uses them and in what manner. Using the granddaddy of them all as you did earlier (the "f" word), even with that you hear friends messing around and say "____ you" in jest. It is entirely different when someone else comes along and uses the exact same words with different meaning and intent. I believe that the words themselves are simply the vehicle by which intent is conveyed. Some words, however, are incendiary and have so much historic meaning that it is safer to avoid them altogether.
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I disagree with the position that someone who is not black uses the word in a negative way without there being racial undertones. I said earlier that I know that younger white and black kids use the word even to each other as friends...I also said that I did not agree with that.
However, it is not unusual that "bad" words are viewed differently depending on who uses them and in what manner. Using the granddaddy of them all as you did earlier (the "f" word), even with that you hear friends messing around and say "____ you" in jest. It is entirely different when someone else comes along and uses the exact same words with different meaning and intent. I believe that the words themselves are simply the vehicle by which intent is conveyed. Some words, however, are incendiary and have so much historic meaning that it is safer to avoid them altogether.
Well, I could be wrong, but it seemed to me that after the Civil Rights Movement when the "N" word was a very bad thing to use, we moved into HipHop and Rap making it universally okay - as long as you weren't using it in the negative sense.
Well, I could be wrong, but it seemed to me that after the Civil Rights Movement when the "N" word was a very bad thing to use, we moved into HipHop and Rap making it universally okay - as long as you weren't using it in the negative sense.
PO, the examples you started out giving were using it in a negative sense. You were just saying that the people were using it negatively to describe the character and actions of those groups of people and not a reference to their color. I simply don't think that white people call black people "nigger" in a negative way and do it completely devoid of racial undertones.
And even in the black community using it is not universally okay simply because rappers use it. Rappers are not the universal mouthpiece of the black community. Many black people and leaders are very vocal about not using the word in any context.
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I agree they shouldn't be used and especially by Christians.
I think that if black people want others to stop saying the "N" word, then they need to stop calling each other that. If they want it to drop from the vocabulary, then they need to be the first to step up. It does not help their cause - at all.
I know a black evangelist that is married to a women with fairly white skin.
He was told by a very well know Apostolic Jesus name pastor of one of the largest churches in the southern US not to bring his wife as it would offend some of his members.
That man is either a racist or those members must pay a large amount of tithes and offerings that he can't afford to lose.
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