Interesting remark by an Australian journalist who's taking a lot of heat for some racist comments on Obama:
But Emmerich himself voiced no regret. On the contrary, he even took a harder line in subsequent interviews. Obama's victory was an "extremely disconcerting development" he told the Austrian Standard on Wednesday, because "blacks aren't as politically civilized." Meanwhile, he told Die Presse in an interview published on Friday that Obama has "a devil-like talent to present his rhetoric so effectively."
Where in the Bible does it say Jesus had a 3 1/2 ministry? I know it is commonly referred to, but I've never been able to find conclusive evidence for that.
One of the easiest ways to determine this is found in the Gospel of John. John has Jesus attending three Passovers during His earthly ministry. These are found in John 2:13, John 6:4, and John 11:55. Each of these happened on different years because John also mentions other feasts happening between each of them. Those feasts are found in John 5:1, John 7:2, and John 10:22. The final Passover John records is the one in which Jesus is crucified (11:55). From John’s record we can deduce that Jesus’ ministry was 3½ years.
This agrees with the timeframe given in Daniel 9:27. There it says that he (Jesus) shall confirm the covenant with many for ONE WEEK….” “One week” is a reference to a period of seven years. Then Daniel wrote: “(A)nd in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease….” The “midst of the week” refers to the middle of that week. Half of a week is 3½ days. So Daniel referred to 3½ years into his final 7-year period. Jesus began His ministry with John the Baptist’s baptism. Then 3½ years later He was “cut off” at His crucifixion. Jesus’ sacrifice nullified the biblical mandate for animal blood sacrifices.
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In light of your interpretation of Daniel 9:27, what is the "week"?
Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon the holy city.
Strong’s defines WEEKS as: (H7620) shabuwa', shaw-boo'-ah; or shabua', shaw-boo'-ah; also (fem.) shebu'ah, sheb-oo-aw'; prop. pass. part. of H7650 as a denom. of H7651; lit. sevened, i.e. a week (spec. of years):--seven, week.
Genesis 29:18, 27, 28
(18) And Jacob loved Rachel; and said, I will serve thee seven years for Rachel thy younger daughter.
(27) Fulfil her week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet seven other years.
(28) And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also.
I hope these help.
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I believe the Lord gives us many opportunities to see how the man of sin could rise to prominence. We have seen ever since the television age how candidates are often judged by appearance, ability to communicate, and personality.
William Howard Taft weighed 332 lbs. He got stuck in the White House bathtub and had to have a custom tub built for him! He would never make it through the primaries now if he were alive and running. With cameras fixated a candidate can hurt his candidacy with sighs, rolling of the eyes, funny facial expressions, verbal gaffes. Abe Lincoln's homely appearance would keep him from being an Illinois legislator let alone president. Richard Nixon's chances were hindered many believe in his debates with Kennedy in 1960 not based on the substance of the issues but because he refused to wear make up which in turn caused beads of sweat to show on his face during the debate.
Reagan was adored because of charisma. He overshadowed his opponents Carter and Mondale because of their dour personalities. Clinton defeated Bush, Sr. and Dole, two opponents who paled in comparison to his personality. He navigated through scandals and controversy largely because of magnetism. W. Bush is excoriated for his inability to inspire but survived two elections because he ran against two men with the combined aura of a tortoise.
Now we have Obama, a telegenic, young, handsome, articulate, charismatic president-elect. He causes journalists to get chills running up their legs, and they admit it. People weep while he speaks. The adoration of the masses is overwhelming. Every time a leader or potential leader emerges like this, it makes me think back to the scripture about what it says the qualities of the son of perdition will have.
Let me say right now that I am not implying that BO is the AC. I am simply pointing out what I see as at the least foreshadowings of the "prince that shall come".
The Bible says he will rise to prominence as a result of a covenant or peace treaty related to the Middle East, specifically Jerusalem. Current events have been pointing in this direction for several decades, the most significant recently being the peace treaty signed by Rabin and Arafat in 1993 before Bill Clinton on the White House lawn. It is not coincidence that the treaty called for a seven year time frame to conclude with a "final status" decision made related to the City of Jerusalem. Of course Bill Clinton is not the AC and the treaty was not the covenant prophesied, especially since 2000 came a went and the final status of Jerusalem remained undetermined. I believe it was a foreshadowing, a warning from the Lord to make us aware how these things will transpire.
The fact that we live in an age where potential leaders must promise peace and security is significant. The Bible says that when men say "peace and safety" sudden destruction will come. I believe the AC will gain prominence through the Middle East struggle, and seemingly settle this most divisive of world issues. The AC will be one who is sympathetic to the Palestinian cause while appearing to be fair to Israel. In the middle of the seven year agreement, the AC will turn on Israel and begin the great tribulation.
The Bible says the AC will be given a mouth speaking great things. The ability to communicate and articulate will be crucial for the AC to persuade the masses to follow his leadership.
Daniel says the AC will think to change times and laws. The AC will emerge as a result of his ability or promises to bring radical change to the norms of life and the world. Almost every presidential campaign in the past 30 years is built on the promise of "Change".
The AC will take on and be granted a Messiah-like aura with people believing he is or will be the one we have been waiting for to unite the world, solve many of its ills, to bring about the utopia many humanists and globalists have longed for and believed in for generations. When nations are dancing in the streets at the election of a US president, I measure it as another foreshadowing.
There are many other things the Bible foretells about the AC. It will be interesting to see what other forewarnings we might see as the Obama administration unfolds.
Seemly ever president become the new AC to the church world!
Interesting remark by an Australian journalist who's taking a lot of heat for some racist comments on Obama:
But Emmerich himself voiced no regret. On the contrary, he even took a harder line in subsequent interviews. Obama's victory was an "extremely disconcerting development" he told the Austrian Standard on Wednesday, because "blacks aren't as politically civilized." Meanwhile, he told Die Presse in an interview published on Friday that Obama has "a devil-like talent to present his rhetoric so effectively."
"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour."
"They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's."
"Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God. Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king."
"This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men."
"I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty."
Barack Hussein Obama is now our President, and we must pray for him and all those who are in authority. The Lord God is the one who sets men in authority and position, wether we like it or not. Let us be diligent to pray for these men and hope that all will be well for the church and our nation.
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I agree that we should pray for our leaders, perhaps some of them might repent of being a puppet of the global elite and start trying to return to the Constitution like John F. Kennedy did, it cost him his life, but he stood up against the evil globalists.
Now, here is something to think about:
Do those scriptures mean that we are to obey government no matter how evil they become, or is it meant to apply to righteous government ?
If it is meant that we are to obey government no matter how evil they get then I suppose that even if the soldiers knew they were rounding up jews for the purpose of gasing them in Nazi Germany that they should have kept obeying Hitler no matter what.
(I don't agree that they should have, but I'm simply making a point)
ALSO: If people are always supposed to obey the rulers over them no matter what, then the American colonists should never have fought for independence from the Brittish and have remained as a Brittish colony. (I don't agree with that either, but just making a point :-)
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Acts 2:38 is a must, not simply an option !
One of the easiest ways to determine this is found in the Gospel of John. John has Jesus attending three Passovers during His earthly ministry. These are found in John 2:13, John 6:4, and John 11:55. Each of these happened on different years because John also mentions other feasts happening between each of them. Those feasts are found in John 5:1, John 7:2, and John 10:22. The final Passover John records is the one in which Jesus is crucified (11:55). From John’s record we can deduce that Jesus’ ministry was 3½ years.
So you are admitting that the 3 1/2 years of Christ's ministry is not implicit but is "deduced", but we can't say of a certainty. John mentions three Passovers but even he admitted that there were many other things that Christ did that weren't recorded at the end of his gospel. We can't prove Jesus ministry was 3 1/2 years long.
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This agrees with the timeframe given in Daniel 9:27. There it says that he (Jesus) shall confirm the covenant with many for ONE WEEK….” “One week” is a reference to a period of seven years. Then Daniel wrote: “(A)nd in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease….” The “midst of the week” refers to the middle of that week. Half of a week is 3½ days. So Daniel referred to 3½ years into his final 7-year period. Jesus began His ministry with John the Baptist’s baptism. Then 3½ years later He was “cut off” at His crucifixion. Jesus’ sacrifice nullified the biblical mandate for animal blood sacrifces.
I am still uncertain what the 7 years (one week) is supposed to be. What, if it is what you say it is, was unfulfilled by Christ being crucified 3½ years into this 7 years? I honestly see a lot of holes with this interpretation.
Again, who is the "prince that shall come" who is mentioned in Daniel 9? It can't be Jesus because He is already referred as "Messiah the Prince". The lower case p used in the spelling of prince and what it describes he will do is obviously someone else.
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Again, who is the "prince that shall come" who is mentioned in Daniel 9? It can't be Jesus because He is already referred as "Messiah the Prince". The lower case p used in the spelling of prince and what it describes he will do is obviously someone else.
No, No, No. I am so hating you right now. I just re-read that.
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
The people of the prince that shall come..... argh... noo... noooo... you just ruined it for me.. really!
But, I still can't reconcile the 'gap' theory to my beliefs.
What is the gap theory?
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