Re: If Nehemiah Were in the Twenty-First Century..
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Originally Posted by Raven
Ferd, Ferd!
At ease my friend. It seems that "fear" and "scare" are words I hear come from your postings with an increasing frequency. God is in control and always has been. Truth will always triumph whether you and I choose to defend it or not. You are too young to worry and be paranoid at what you think may lurk behind every posting. Go use those gifted cooking skills you are rumored to have and make some hungry people happy. The good guy in the white hat is going to still be standing after the smoke is gone and he will marry the beautiful bride of his dreams. And that's just the beginning of the story.
Raven
Elder, I was joking with thepew.... he is a good egg.... that post did have a certain ring to it that was truely reminicent of an old friend.
I assure you my use of the words fear and scare are Euphemistic and not realistic!
But as the Good Book suggest, I will take the kind rebuke of an elder with love and appreciation!
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
Re: If Nehemiah Were in the Twenty-First Century..
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Israel fell w/ it's walls, Randy ....
They crumbled at the feet of the enemy.
Is it the wall that saves the nation?
Why did Nehemiah want to re-build the wall? To preserve truth?
No, he rebuilt the wall to restore proper worship practices among disenfranchised Jews, to restore spiritual identity, and to separate clean from unclean.
Re: If Nehemiah Were in the Twenty-First Century..
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Originally Posted by tbpew
PP,
I think I understand the principles you are pointing us to consider.
My question was established in the reality that God is making his own habitation without the hands of man being involved. The new tabernacle is a body.
So whatever is needful, whatever should be attended to with vigilance, is entirely within the construct of our own imaginations and resultant conduct.
Are you proposing a separation (some barrier to mobility) be maintained in our physical conduct with other humans?
You have pointed/asked us to consider, that there are two warnings, one for pastors and one for the entire membership. I have trouble reconciling that a man, operating in the gifting of a pastor, can trump, or in some other fashion, alter what is mine in God.
Whatever should be being builded and maintained is within my roles and callings pertaining to the body of Christ. This is why I am trying to understand your perspective of how the ministration of these walls is lived out in the life of the individual member of God's Christ.
It is what it is.
Christ warned those pastors. He held them responsible for the message the Church heard. He threatened to remove them if they did not repent for tolerating false doctrine.
The idea that we are not guardians of truth is silly.
Of course we are.
Now, I realize that truth is powerfully immutable. But folks can be swayed from truth by a lie. There is no law that demands tolerance of every doctrinal wind that floats by.
Re: If Nehemiah Were in the Twenty-First Century..
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
PP, the problem here is that you believe your interpretation of what Jesus will disallow in his church is really what Jesus would disallow. You are essentially telling Jesus what he can and cannot or will not accept based on what you only THINK he meant.
While I agree with your two points, I also agree with what someone else said that lots of people believe that and you would still toss them out of your city on their ear.
Limiting Christ, indeed. Placing a wall around Him.
Re: If Nehemiah Were in the Twenty-First Century..
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
No response to this question?
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
All I did was challenge your analogy which I find to be a poor one. I at no time suggested allowing Wiccans in the pulpit.
Can you show me where Jesus erected a wall to keep false doctrine out?
A wall around a city is a military statement. It says we are not at your mercy, we can defend our selves. Truth is its own protection against false doctrine.