Is it ODD or is it just me?

[Steve Epley]

The LA pastor who told me this has been out of the UPC for about 20 years he has a very good relationship with the UPC guys around him and lifelong friends. He siad he personally spoke to 2 pastors one was an official and Elder Craft had talked to both of them? I have not personally talked to anyone that Elder Craft spoke to.

If he is their elder, then he has a right to talk to them about the issue and give his recommendation/opinion of what would be best for them and their churches. That's is what elders are for, and there is nothing wrong with that.

[StillStanding]

I think somewhere between 200 and a thousand preachers will end up leaving.

My guess: 666

I'm totally surprised by TLC as this is out of character for him. Maybe he is struggling to remain relevant in his senior years.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

I think somewhere between 200 and a thousand preachers will end up leaving.

My guess: 666

I'm totally surprised by TLC as this is out of character for him. Maybe he is struggling to remain relevant in his senior years.

Now that's funny right thar!!!!

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

I think somewhere between 200 and a thousand preachers will end up leaving.

My guess: 666

I'm totally surprised by TLC as this is out of character for him. Maybe he is struggling to remain relevant in his senior years.

Pianoman, I am shocked too really. many observed that TLC took a sharpe to the right after the LW fiasco to save the school's reputation???

Randy, I kept hearing Rumors that TLC was in town(Ca.) maybe there was something to this afterall ??? even talk of an eventual move out here??

[Steve Epley]

According to men who were at Branson Craft's name has been added to the list of sponsers.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

According to men who were at Branson Craft's name has been added to the list of sponsers.

I posted this sometime ago not that he was going to be a sponser but that he was attending and joining the new group. Of course, there were some who denied it

[chaotic_resolve]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Regardless of our disagreement on things, here is why TLC will NOT be placed under question if the officials in Mississippi have half a brain cell between them:

Placing that man under question would drive men en masse to pull out of the UPC via protest.

It would be stupidity of the highest order.

When solid men who are not radicals start pulling out, men like Godair and Craft, it might be time to take a long hard look at things.

So the next time a minister you consider Liberal starts calling other ministers in an effort to get them to leave the organization what will you say?

Putting him under question isn't about the subject, it's about his alleged unethical actions. If it's true he's calling men with the express purpose of trying to drive a wedge between them and the UPCI, then he needs to drop his license immediately, resign his church and leave the organization.

Otherwise he's lied to the organization by signing the license in the first place and going against the requirements and regulations that come with that license . . . and that would make him a ... (dare I say it?) ... liar.

JMO

[delta soundman]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

I think somewhere between 200 and a thousand preachers will end up leaving.

My guess: 666

I'm totally surprised by TLC as this is out of character for him. Maybe he is struggling to remain relevant in his senior years.

From my sources I understood it to be TLC who was leading the charge against RES 4 all the way up to GC. I live in the MS District and nothing surprises me anymore about the organization's leadership in place in Jackson. You won't find a more backwards district east of the MS River. As far as RES 3 goes it is nothing more than a billy club used to smack men who leave the mothership.

[delta soundman]

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

So the next time a minister you consider Liberal starts calling other ministers in an effort to get them to leave the organization what will you say?

Putting him under question isn't about the subject, it's about his alleged unethical actions. If it's true he's calling men with the express purpose of trying to drive a wedge between them and the UPCI, then he needs to drop his license immediately, resign his church and leave the organization.

Otherwise he's lied to the organization by signing the license in the first place and going against the requirements and regulations that come with that license . . . and that would make him a ... (dare I say it?) ... liar.

JMO

TLC is a fine example of where RES 3 should be used.