Was it necessary to repeal DADT? - Page 58

Azzan · #**571** 12-28-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by James Griffin

was wondering how long you would lurk.;-)

Picking my battles. :-)

James Griffin · #**572** 12-28-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Azzan

Picking my battles. :-)

We have not met and I am coming off a long hiatus but you may be happy to know you were the topic on a rather long thread on another forum. ;-)

Mr. Smith · #**573** 12-28-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Azzan

I totally disagree.

It's about time you showed up!

First of all, he said, "Lifestyle they have chosen" because we all know that gay people were sitting at Starbuck's one day and said, "Hey, I think I'll be gay."

Second, I'm not sure how my telling a gay couple, "I cannot violate my conscience because of the way I believe the bible teaches, and perform your wedding ceremony, but I love you dearly and would love to attend because I support and accept you" could ever be seen as approval of their "lifestyle."

That one's a mystery to me.

Mr. Smith · #**574** 12-28-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Azzan

Picking my battles. :-)

And you're wise. Sometimes it's the better decision to just let it go.

Azzan · #**575** 12-28-2010, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by James Griffin

We have not met and I am coming off a long hiatus but you may be happy to know you were the topic on a rather long thread on another forum. ;-)

Well, at least the topic is being discussed instead of ignoring it and hoping it will go away.

Mr. Smith · #**576** 12-28-2010, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by James Griffin

We have not met and I am coming off a long hiatus but you may be happy to know you were the topic on a rather long thread on another forum. ;-)

Are you serious? May I ask, where? I'm not on any other forums. I've remained faithful to AFF and haven't cheated.

James Griffin · #**577** 12-28-2010, 09:30 PM

Its a closed preachers only forum. Most are very very much more conservative than this one. I think their most common adjective for this forum is sewer.

The other one I am is far to the right of that one. ;-) what can I say I'm Switzerland.

Jack Shephard · #**578** 12-28-2010, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

It's about time you showed up!

First of all, he said, "Lifestyle they have chosen" because we all know that gay people were sitting at Starbuck's one day and said, "Hey, I think I'll be gay."

Second, I'm not sure how my telling a gay couple, "I cannot violate my conscience because of the way I believe the bible teaches, and perform your wedding ceremony, but I love you dearly and would love to attend because I support and accept you" could ever be seen as approval of their "lifestyle."

That one's a mystery to me.

We need to have a "like" button similar to FB...cause I like this.

Azzan · #**579** 12-28-2010, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

It's about time you showed up!

First of all, he said, "Lifestyle they have chosen" because we all know that gay people were sitting at Starbuck's one day and said, "Hey, I think I'll be gay."

Second, I'm not sure how my telling a gay couple, "I cannot violate my conscience because of the way I believe the bible teaches, and perform your wedding ceremony, but I love you dearly and would love to attend because I support and accept you" could ever be seen as approval of their "lifestyle."

That one's a mystery to me.

Yep, we all chose to be gay. If only it were that simple.

I think you explained your position pretty well. I also think others have explained their position pretty well too. In the end, I think you're all going to have to agree to disagree.

For the record, I can safely say that I would never take Mr Smith's presence at a homosexual wedding as approval of the participant's lifestyle.

*AQuietPlace* · #**580** 12-28-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Second, I'm not sure how my telling a gay couple, "I cannot violate my conscience because of the way I believe the bible teaches, and perform your wedding ceremony, but I love you dearly and would love to attend because I support and accept you" could ever be seen as approval of their "lifestyle."

That one's a mystery to me.

With calmness, level-head, rhetoric toned down for a minute.....

You honestly don't see how people could see it that way? You said yourself that it was a tough decision for you, that you had to think about it quite a bit, you knew it was controversial. So does it honestly, sincerely surprise you that others don't just jump on the 'oh, yeah, that's great!' bandwagon? Seriously? That other people could have thought about it just as sincerely and come to a different conclusion than you did? That they could feel that attending the ceremony would indicate approval of what was going on?

This is an extremely controversial topic. Everyone seems to be in agreement that homosexuality is a sin, but how we deal with all of the issues involved, the people involved.... all of that is extremely controversial. Which means it's going to stir up controversy. Which means that people are going to think your decision was very wrong, and you're going to think that them thinking that is very wrong.

So can you sincerely say that you don't understand why they think your decision could look like approval? (even if you disagree?)