I have Left the UPC Church

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Hot Coffee Ms.

Michelle,
All I'm saying is, it's not a wise choice for an avatar to use on a " Christian Apostolic Forum". That was what my comment was referring to.

Really? Last time I checked the Bible doesn't say that beer is sinful.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by JOYoftheLord

Hi Michlow! Who would that woman be with the striped face? That's not sweet little Tammy Faye is it? If it is, she sure is prettier than she used to be! LOL

Well, technically its Jan Hooks of Saturday Night Live mocking Tammy Faye

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Michlow

Well, technically its Jan Hooks of Saturday Night Live mocking Tammy Faye

I thought those cheeks didn't look fat enough.

Although I despised many of her actions and excesses I care for her as a human being and I am praying for her as she is dying. A few weeks ago I beleive she was down to around 60 lbs.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by CC1

I thought those cheeks didn't look fat enough.

Although I despised many of her actions and excesses I care for her as a human being and I am praying for her as she is dying. A few weeks ago I beleive she was down to around 60 lbs.

It is sad to see her, or anyone, suffer so much.

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by NLYP

Mich...please dont get defensive...I said those things to you in love....
The problem is this....
People come to God and they come through the New Birth Experience.....then they are yolked with a bunch of man made nonsence and expected to think that standards are essentials to a salvational experience.
YOU are right to question outward man made rules and "standards"...question away.....but never question what brought you into the church to begin with.

In respect to Epelys post...herein lies the problem.

They preach the outward donts so hard that the person questions it all when the questioning begins. Just remember this...the Acts 2:38 message is the new birth...water and spirit. Please from my soul dont question that.
I am sorry if your experience with the UPC was one of such that would make you consider throwing it all away. That is sad.

Remember this....you are a child of God....the Bible plan of salvation made you that.....HOLD ON TO THAT!

As far as the other stuff.......let it go...get your Bible...get alone with God...listen to the voice of conviction and let it mold and shape your holiness...not a pulpit!
Listen to your Pastor...then pray and ask God. Dont obey him out of fear or intimidation...but listen and pray.

Epely..as far as your comment...standards first.....doctrine second...my answer is simple...IF you guys would quit corrupting truth with your rules, regulations, dogmas, creeds and man made nonsence and quit preaching it like its part of the cross, and the new birth message and let the Holy Ghost do its thing....they would not question it.
BUT when they see the light of some of this nonsence it causes them to question the whole ball of wax....WE are guilty of the questioning...not them...US!

Bump for Mich....

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by NLYP

Bump for Mich....

I'm getting old , but I KNOW that I responded to this. Let me see if I can go bump it for you.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Michlow

I'm sorry Bro. Dan. (I can still call you brother, right? ) I didn't mean to sound defensive. But I will admit to the occasional frustration. But you pretty much nailed it on the head in your last paragraph. In the future, I think I'll let you fight my battles, LOL

Ahhhh....here it is, Post #506 Bumping for NYLP

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Dan remember Father Time tells all. We are watching you to see how long it takes you to do what the rest have done. I can nearly count them on ONE had that maintains the doctrine after they abandon the standards. Not my views but their views of standards.
Sir I have NEVER question the absoluteness of the Apostolic message. I have questioned myself and others but NEVER the message. Speak for yourself.

Tell that to the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by ILG

Tell that to the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World.

Right, tell it to them.

They have been having some trinitarians speak at their recent General Conferences.

The PAW, once a model of doctrinal purity, has finally succeumbed.

Sorry Sis, your example backfired.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Right, tell it to them.

They have been having some trinitarians speak at their recent General Conferences.

The PAW, once a model of doctrinal purity, has finally succeumbed.

Sorry Sis, your example backfired.

Mangun has John Maxwell speak and the Gaithers at Because of the Times. So.....is a trinitarian speaker "proof"??