Lee Stoneking Addresses UN

[n david]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

It is you who demand that the man be accepted regardless of the message. This is declined. Sorry.

No, I just don't have some arbitary list of unreasonable demands they have to meet in order to be anointed.

Obviously you don't demand the same from your muslim imams or even your dead false prophet. You can't, because the majority of imams would fail. The dead false prophet especially would fail your litany of demands.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by mfblume

What is this? Are you saying we cannot know what the scriptures really state, and therefore cannot repeat what they state lest we be judges?

If you get a letter in the mail stating the judge sentenced you as guilty, is the letter the judge? All we are doing is relaying what the BIBLE judged. We're not judges. We are messengers of the judgment passed.

Good post!!!

[shazeep]

ya--for a killer, to justify themselves. Wipe your mouth, PO, and say you have done nothing wrong. Or else show me the letter from the judge. What yack. "Father, please forgive them" is the only correct answer.

yes, by all means grant yourself permission to interpret Scripture for everyone else while you are at it. After all, that's what we are taught, right? Apply Scripture to...everyone else. Nevermind all of the universal truths contained in It, that you have ignored; love your enemies, the prayer of the Pharisee v the contrite sinner, etc--procedures are not being adhered to, in your unfailing and unquestionably perfect opinion! "So maybe Christ does not condemn them; but see here how i have interpreted Scripture!" To hell with them! Forthwith!

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

What is this? Are you saying we cannot know what the scriptures really state, and therefore cannot repeat what they state lest we be judges?

If you get a letter in the mail stating the judge sentenced you as guilty, is the letter the judge? All we are doing is relaying what the BIBLE judged. We're not judges. We are messengers of the judgment passed.

Yes, go then, and be the messenger of judgement. Forget about all that "encourage one another" tripe. Point out where they may have transgressed, by all means. From your chair.

As to the first, what i am saying is that Scripture is once again verified (and vilified, hmm), in dividing hearts, and revealing premises. You have found what you have sought. You may expect that the measure you have used will be measured to you. You are invited to comfortably disregard that a Muslim might be more likely to offer the thirsty a drink of water than your avg OP, and nevermind that they might be the first son of the vineyard owner, and you might be the second. I'm glad Scripture is so black and white for you guys.

[Praxeas]

All Muslims who do not see Jesus as "The Way, the truth and the Live and no man can come to the Father but by me" is lost

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Esaias

"If you say people are lost then you are lost!"

lol

Another "you have to accept everybody and love everybody and if you disagree with me you are scum" type.

So open minded there's nothing between the ears. So full of love they'd burn you at the stake. A "true follower of Jesus would never say others need to follow Jesus" type... unless they say "follow Jesus by not doing what he actually said as long as you don't tell others to follow Jesus".

The kind of person who just makes up whatever they want out of their own imagination, and calls it the revealed will of "God"... and becomes a true believer in their personal made up religion, condemning anyone as deceived and evil who doesn't bow to their little idol every time they toot their little horn.

A person who condemns people as not being right with God who say people are not right with God (ie a hypocrite).

The product of modern ANTICHRIST "education", denying reason while claiming to be reasonable, preaching death to any who don't preach " toleration" and "acceptance", one who has mastered the skill of doublethink quite well. Pontificator who interdicts and excommunicates all who pontificate, excepting himself. Quite the pope, actually.

Sad. But typical.


Shaz, take a number and get in line. You're proving to be just another typical dime-a-dozen moral relativist. The PTBs have trained you well as a humanist.

Or you are a bot. Which might explain some things.

you imagine condemnation, where i have none. If you feel justified in picking out the warnings in Scripture and applying them to others, and holding others to the letter, as i said, who am i to say you are wrong?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

"If you say people are lost then you are lost!"

Well, if you say people who do not consciously accept the work of the cross in this life will be saved, you are decieved. Universalism is from the pit. But that would mean I cannot be lost for saying people are lost. lol Anyone care for a nice, hot cup of Confusion???

well, you miss the point that they may be lost, i don't know--that is for you OPs, obviously, to decide. I'm sure it's a doubly heavy burden for you, what with that cross on the other shoulder and all... yikes

Jesus is just so lucky to have you guys. Oh, thank You, Lord, that you have sent someone to point out Your Divine Condemnation to us, and to guide us in the Perfect Procedures by which we might grope our way toward you (neverminding that little kids already get it), to discover that wondrous baptism (no, not his way, or their way, but MY way; you'll have to redux it!)

[shazeep]

ever give much thought to the connection that everything you buy is now produced by slave labor in a third world country, that you are surely considering "lost?"

prolly just a coincidence

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

All Muslims who do not see Jesus as "The Way, the truth and the Live and no man can come to the Father but by me" is lost

can't disagree with that. I would say that there is a spiritual meaning to this, and accepting Christ with your mouth doesn't really get the job done, at least imo, but whatever. The Qur'an agrees with you, very plainly. And, i see a sea of people, all crying "Lord, Lord," who seem to be agreeing with you as well.

i might suggest--being as how they live on the other side of the planet, and your chief interaction with them is to sell their radicals and figureheads vast amounts of weaponry--that you consider the plight of the Christian; in oh, Baltimore, say. Whatever.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by n david

No, I just don't have some arbitary list of unreasonable demands they have to meet in order to be anointed.

Obviously you don't demand the same from your muslim imams or even your dead false prophet. You can't, because the majority of imams would fail. The dead false prophet especially would fail your litany of demands.

ah, that must be why he is considered a prophet to billions...you should prolly educate them.

taking a little time off from advocating clever death-traps for the misled devout, huh? Sling it, babe. You might be a little more offensive if you just made up a little cartoon there, Charlie.