What Difference Does it Make?? Is this Forum REALLY APOSTOLIC?????

[SDG]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Perhaps your right sis, I know that not everyone agrees with the UPC in all areas, but we preach and teach the baptism of Jesus name and the infilling of the Holy Ghost just like most Apostolics. If we are trying to reach the lost, but putting other orgs. down, how could we be effective? I was pretty upset in a different thread (I beleive you know the one I talking about) concerning some allegations that were brought up, now to me this isn't edifying at all.

Brother Eastman ... we've dialogued at various forums and have agreed and disagreed on various issues ... but I've known you to be fair. If you are going to address this issue let's step back for a moment ... are trinitarians, liberals, conservatives, the PAW, Episcopalians immune from criticism here??? ... I think not. We must realize that we are here to opine ... sometimes we may not agree but none the less it's someone's opinion. I think it's healthy to see what others think of us ... We cannot live in a bubble.

The moderators here do an excellent job in policing 'bashing'. I know because ... I've been spanked a few times.

[rgcraig]

We all come here for different reason and the sooner we accept that the smoother things can go.

As for as it being an Apostolic forum, I believe the majority rules and the majority are Apostolic.

[Nahum]

Of late, I have been slammed because I am not "theological" enough.
FYI everybody, that is not why I am part of any forum (other than the Puritan Mind Forum). I come here for fellowship.

My theological views were long ago settled. Most of the recent "theological" discussions are totally self-defeating and meant to divide those friends who gather here. Stupid things like "Are you PCI or PAJC?", and "The Hair Issue".

There was a time when I would have been completely interested in those sorts of things. I do enjoy the discussion occasionally. But my core beliefs have been settled for a long, long time.

I have written a book that is soon to be published, but there is no way I would share the theological content on here. It would become fodder for name-calling and vain babbling debates.

There are many who post here who absolutely are not Apostolic in any way. I have no problem with it as long as the tolerance they so deeply crave is not traded for hatred towards more traditional Apostolics.

We can debate ideology all day long.
But I am through with the "he said, she said" junk.

I guess if people can't deal with that, they can put me on ignore.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Brother Eastman ... we've dialogued at various forums and have agreed and disagreed on various issues ... but I've known you to be fair. If you are going to address this issue let's step back for a moment ... are trinitarians, liberals, conservatives, the PAW, Episcopalians immune from criticism here??? ... I think not. We must realize that we are here to opine ... sometimes we may not agree but none the less it's someone's opinion. I think it's healthy to see what others think of us ... We cannot live in a bubble.

The moderators here do an excellent job in policing 'bashing'. I know because ... I've been spanked a few times.

Dan, you may or may not beleive this, but I consider you to be a brother in Christ, so therefore I love you as a brother in Christ. It's just that I did not plan to come here and speak negatively about someones org. Thank you for the post and your kind words (didn't know you had it in ya, I'm sure you probably thought the same). God bless you!

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

We all come here for different reason and the sooner we accept that the smoother things can go.

As for as it being an Apostolic forum, I believe the majority rules and the majority are Apostolic.

Exactly Renda.

There are obvioulsy people here for pure theological discussion...others are just here to fellowship with others.

I kinda grow tired of hearing others complain that this forum or another forum is full of "fluff" and yet they add ZERO to start what they are complaining about.

As for this forum, I have seen a good mix.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Of late, I have been slammed because I am not "theological" enough.
FYI everybody, that is not why I am part of any forum (other than the Puritan Mind Forum). I come here for fellowship.

My theological views were long ago settled. Most of the recent "theological" discussions are totally self-defeating and meant to divide those friends who gather here. Stupid things like "Are you PCI or PAJC?", and "The Hair Issue".

There was a time when I would have been completely interested in those sorts of things. I do enjoy the discussion occasionally. But my core beliefs have been settled for a long, long time.

I have written a book that is soon to be published, but there is no way I would share the theological content on here. It would become fodder for name-calling and vain babbling debates.

There are many who post here who absolutely are not Apostolic in any way. I have no problem with it as long as the tolerance they so deeply crave is not traded for hatred towards more traditional Apostolics.

We can debate ideology all day long.
But I am through with the "he said, she said" junk.

I guess if people can't deal with that, they can put me on ignore.

PP, I enjoy your fellowship greatly and your brilliant mind. Can't wait for the book so I can shred it .... metaphorically speaking .... Love ya bro.

Dan

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

You know you'd hate that! You've said yourself you like to be challenged.

I know you are just kidding, but there are some that really want that.

LOL. True I guess. And I've certainly been challenged many many times to the point of tears and anger too!! LOL! I know ... this isn't real life and we're not supposed to get emotional on these forums but I certainly have when I felt like the "hounds of hell" were on my trail.

Iron sharpens iron. This has been said a number of times lately and it's true. I miss some of the "iron" that was such a large factor in past discussion and here's partly why ....

There are certain people who have great skill at presenting arguments and thoughts and topics and are able to debate and present their thoughts in a way that challenges us and causes us in turn to dig a little deeper and work a little harder at presenting and articulating our own views and opinions. So you get the "iron sharpening iron" effect.

It's great. It's certainly challenged me at times -- that's for sure. I've learned a lot as a result.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Dan, you may or may not beleive this, but I consider you to be a brother in Christ, so therefore I love you as a brother in Christ. It's just that I did not plan to come here and speak negatively about someones org. Thank you for the post and your kind words (didn't know you had it in ya, I'm sure you probably thought the same). God bless you!

Brother Eastman, I love you more than you love me.

Now take it like a man ... just kidding.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Of late, I have been slammed because I am not "theological" enough..

Yeah, I remember you slammed me for not being "substantive" enough... rofl


Some people do get tired of explaining some of the things over and over...I know that's the case for me here at times since I poured out a lot of energy on another forum (some of us sometimes need breathers)

...sometimes it's just the same ...so if I am not substantive enough for you...just know I may be a little tired, or busy with some other obligations, and I like to pop in to read some of the good stuff that are on here from people like Truly Blessed, Felicity, MOW, DA, etc.....

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

So you think that these bolded statements are edifying to those that would simply lurk?

I could care less about people who lurk but for one reason or another don't have the courage or level of interest to defend their position or to tell us what they think.

I don't worry about straw men, white elephants, 1000lb gorillas, red herrings, or ghosts...