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Old 03-07-2007, 02:40 PM
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To answer the question posed.....NO, God DOES NOT excuse certain sins. God is the same yesterday, today and forever. To say He excuses certain sins would be to say that God made a mistake. Murder is murder. Suicide is murder. Murder is a sin.
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I don't think I wanna touch this one, I will say this though.....I'm glad I'm not God.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:45 PM
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I'd like to take into consideration the state of mind that the person is in. I doubt that anyone with a shred of sanity would take their own life. Then I'd have to consider why the person is in the state of mind they are in. The pressures of life and other events, or did God turn them over? I don't know.. Only God knows for sure.

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Old 03-07-2007, 02:46 PM
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To answer the question posed.....NO, God DOES NOT excuse certain sins. God is the same yesterday, today and forever. To say He excuses certain sins would be to say that God made a mistake. Murder is murder. Suicide is murder. Murder is a sin.
I have to agree.

Well meaning sin is still sin.
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I won't go into my own personal story, but I will say, depression can get very bad. Sometimes people have manic depression and don't know it! (bipolar)
"Normal" people can tell you to "get over it" or "things will get better" but if you've never dealt with it, you really don't know how bad things can get.

True, but I truly believe that if you have the HG living inside of you you can overcome these things.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:48 PM
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What if you prayed "Father forgive me for what I am about to do"?
I think the Father knows why we are doing what we are doing. Yes, we are taking matters into our own hands, but is that any different than us doing so in any situation?

We take matters into our own hands all the time.
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I also want to state that there are more and more elderly being treated with antidepressants than ever. It used to be thought that the depression they suffered from was due to old age and such, but it's more than that.

Think of how depressed you might be if you were put into a facility that is not your home where you are subjected to people coming into your room whether you want them to or not, you can't have certain items due to lack of space or a safety issue, you eat when they tell you to eat and what they tell you to eat, bring you pills constantly, tell you when to potty and go to bed......and that's just a small piece of the life of someone who is no longer able to care for themselves.

Knowing what I know, I can easily see how someone would take the life of someone they love, knowing they wouldn't want to live that way...and take their own life due to failing health and knowing what they will have to face if they continue living.
Yes, it is very sad.
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To answer the question posed.....NO, God DOES NOT excuse certain sins. God is the same yesterday, today and forever. To say He excuses certain sins would be to say that God made a mistake. Murder is murder. Suicide is murder. Murder is a sin.
And a lie is a lie, right?

Explain why Rahab was blessed for hiding spies then lying about it. That action made her part of the direct lineage of Jesus Christ, even though she was a harlot.
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I think the Father knows why we are doing what we are doing. Yes, we are taking matters into our own hands, but is that any different than us doing so in any situation?

We take matters into our own hands all the time.
Exactly, and so shall we be accountable to them.
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True, but I truly believe that if you have the HG living inside of you you can overcome these things.
We can get over all kinds of ailments and illnesses, but only if God wills it. Sometimes, we have to live and deal with situations.
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