What logic and Bible is used against beards?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

When were you an elder in several churches for a 13 year period?

The 70s or the 80s?

70's 80's 90's.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

70's 80's 90's.

You are like Disco.

[Michael The Disciple]

Lets look at the accusation that wearing a beard associates one with evil people in the light of SUIT WEARING.

Who out there in the world are known to like to wear suits?

Crooked Politicians
Wall Street Kings of greed.
Hollywood Actors.
CIA Assassins.
Mafia hit men.

Why do Preachers overlook suit wearing as an evil association with worldliness?

Why do Preachers wear suits?

Do they think it makes them LOOK GOOD?

So if a man wants to wear a beard because he thinks it might make him look better its PRIDE....but if a Preacher wears suits because he THINKS it makes HIM look better its fine and dandy?

So if the issue of wearing a beard is because a man is proud...how about the issue of wearing a suit?

[TakingDominion]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Why should that be shocking? I was an Elder in several Churches for a 13 year period. I have always believed in a local Church. Its just that I want a Church that has enough truth to make it worth while going.

BTW are you saying a group is NOT an honest to goodness Church if they dont preach "shave only"?

MTD, I love you man.

Shocking because I know you have high standards.

I did not that, but if the razor fits!

Glad to hear you have found a place to worship and that the pastor has treated you kindly.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by TakingDominion

MTD, I love you man.

Shocking because I know you have high standards.

I did not that, but if the razor fits!

Glad to hear you have found a place to worship and that the pastor has treated you kindly.

Thanks TD peace and love! Yes so far he has. The 75 mile one way drive is a bit rough.

[Esaias]

An elder whom I respect and with whom I am in communication posted this on his website: http://www.mtzionconway.com/mobilepa...?pagenumber=10

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

An elder whom I respect and with whom I am in communication posted this on his website: http://www.mtzionconway.com/mobilepa...?pagenumber=10

Very sound

[Evang.Benincasa]

[TK Burk]

Early "Christian" attitudes on beards

• "The hair of the chin showed him to be a man." St Clement of Alexandria (c.195, E), 2.271
• "How womanly it is for one who is a man to comb himself and shave himself with a razor, for the sake of fine effect, and to arrange his hair at the mirror, shave his cheeks, pluck hairs out of them, and smooth them!…For God wished women to be smooth and to rejoice in their locks alone growing spontaneously, as a horse in his mane. But He adorned man like the lions, with a beard, and endowed him as an attribute of manhood, with a hairy chest--a sign of strength and rule." St. Clement of Alexandria, 2.275
• “This, then, is the mark of the man, the beard. By this, he is seen to be a man. It is older than Eve. It is the token of the superior nature….It is therefore unholy to desecrate the symbol of manhood, hairiness.” St. Clement of Alexandria, 2.276
• "It is not lawful to pluck out the beard, man’s natural and noble adornment." St. Clement of Alexandria, 2.277
• "In their manners, there was no discipline. In men, their beards were defaced." St Cyprian (c. 250, W), 5.438
• "The beard must not be plucked. 'You will not deface the figure of your beard'." 19:32 St. Cyprian, 5.553
• "The nature of the beard contributes in an incredible degree to distinguish the maturity of bodies, or to distinguish the sex, or to contribute to the beauty of manliness and strength." Lactantius (c. 304-314, W), 7.288
• "Men may not destroy the hair of their beards and unnaturally change the form of a man. For the Law says, “You will not deface your beards.” For God the Creator has made this decent for women, but has determined that it is unsuitable for men." Apostolic Constitutions (compiled c.390, E) 7.392. (1)

And then, of course, let's not forget the "early 'apostolic' history."

Early Azusa Street Revival


William Joseph Seymour


Frank Bartleman


Charles Fox Parham

[n david]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Lets look at the accusation that wearing a beard associates one with evil people in the light of SUIT WEARING.

Who out there in the world are known to like to wear suits?

Crooked Politicians
Wall Street Kings of greed.
Hollywood Actors.
CIA Assassins.
Mafia hit men.

Why do Preachers overlook suit wearing as an evil association with worldliness?

Why do Preachers wear suits?

Do they think it makes them LOOK GOOD?

So if a man wants to wear a beard because he thinks it might make him look better its PRIDE....but if a Preacher wears suits because he THINKS it makes HIM look better its fine and dandy?

So if the issue of wearing a beard is because a man is proud...how about the issue of wearing a suit?

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...highlight=Suit