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Old 01-16-2017, 04:02 PM
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How sad.

Testosterone levels are fading fast.
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I just finished reading Jeremiah in the New Living Translation this morning. Each prophecy against the various nations has something like this:

That the warriors of each nation "shall become like women", and/or "Your men shall wail in agony like a woman in labor".

It seems to me that the Word of the LORD to Jeremiah was that when His judgments fell upon a nation or a people, the hearts of the warrior men of that nation or people would "melt" and they'd turn into "women" in the sense of becoming weak and unprepared to bear arms and take up the fight.
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:23 PM
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Yep, you missed it.

May I suggest you go back to the first post and read it.

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Good grief!
i did read it which is why i wrote "i dont get it? " with an explanation why i didnt get it.
again, i dont get how the pictures and phrase women prayer warriors would be a threat. do people think its demonic corruption or something?
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I just finished reading Jeremiah in the New Living Translation this morning. Each prophecy against the various nations has something like this:

That the warriors of each nation "shall become like women", and/or "Your men shall wail in agony like a woman in labor".

It seems to me that the Word of the LORD to Jeremiah was that when His judgments fell upon a nation or a people, the hearts of the warrior men of that nation or people would "melt" and they'd turn into "women" in the sense of becoming weak and unprepared to bear arms and take up the fight.

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i did read it which is why i wrote "i dont get it? " with an explanation why i didnt get it.
again, i dont get how the pictures and phrase women prayer warriors would be a threat. do people think its demonic corruption or something?
Too bad we can't blame this on demons. No, sadly, we have a situation of women having more testosterone then men. I have daughters, and I pray they don't have to carry their husbands across the threshold.
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Too bad we can't blame this on demons. No, sadly, we have a situation of women having more testosterone then men. I have daughters, and I pray they don't have to carry their husbands across the threshold.
i have a daughter (and son) i teach and encourage her to speak her mind, express her uniqueness, and never think she has to hold her head down and keep her mouth shut because she is a female.
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i have a daughter (and son) i teach and encourage her to speak her mind, express her uniqueness, and never think she has to hold her head down and keep her mouth shut because she is a female.
Same with my daughters, but they conduct themselves as women, and never act like men.
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i dont get it? is there something in the bible i missed that said women cant pray, lead prayers or lead a group? did Jesus not have a women in His inner circle?
I will try to explain since I'm the one who started the thread.

You are correct that there isn't anything wrong about a woman praying, leading a prayer, or leading a prayer group. And yes, there were women who were very close to Jesus.

The issue is that to whatever degree, I am seeing more and more a misrepresentation of what I believe are Biblical gender roles.

Sure a woman ought to be praying vigorously before the Lord, and sure, she as much as any man needs to put on the whole armor of God, and yes, the sword of the Spirit is just as available to her as to any man.

But look at what that has turned into. Do a google image search for "Princess Prayer Warrior". Then do a google image search for "Prince Prayer Warrior".

This may be unpopular but men seemingly have been taught in the church that they take a backseat role when it comes to spiritual warfare. This may not be true of you or true everywhere, but I've watched a lot of good men walk around with their thumbs up their butts thinking their wives were more spiritual than they were because their wives made all the prayer meetings and were always the ones weeping and wailing at altar calls.

Some of these same men got up for work at 4:00am or earlier sometimes, worked until 7:00pm or later sometimes and were just too wore out to make it to an hour long 8:00pm meeting. And yet, even though working hard and providing for one's family is one of the highest spiritual callings God ever gave to a man, it gets taken for granted by those who don't understand the nature of true spirituality.

So women get painted as these saintly, tough as nails, war on the floor prayer powerhouses while the men get portrayed as meek little mice who can barely talk to God because they are so ashamed of not being as spiritual as they are allegedly supposed to be.

This is garbage with a capital "G".

Now again, maybe this isn't your experience, but it is happening.

I've read so many different books written by women about prayer and let's see, what have I discovered?

- Laying un-cut hair on prayer requests causes God to move mountains
- Women are supposed to pray a minimum of three hours a day or they aren't really praying and fast at least once a week
- Women praying so hard and interceding so much they vomited, so they started bringing garbage cans with them to their prayer meetings just in case
- Women praying so hard they broke subcutaneous blood vessels all over their body and had to go to the ER.
- Women discovering the secret name of the presiding demon over a city while praying while the men were nowhere to be found

Need I say more?

Maybe you or someone else doesn't see a problem with this stuff. And hey, if that's the case, more power to you. But I think that a lot of the replies here in this thread indicate that others really do see a problem and that it needs solving.

I hope this clears things up for you. If you have more questions or comments for me, I will be glad to address them.

Peace and God bless,

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Votive, I have never encountered any of these examples in regards to women praying, I believe this to be very fringe and bizarre, certainly not the norm:

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- Laying un-cut hair on prayer requests causes God to move mountains
- Women are supposed to pray a minimum of three hours a day or they aren't really praying and fast at least once a week
- Women praying so hard and interceding so much they vomited, so they started bringing garbage cans with them to their prayer meetings just in case
- Women praying so hard they broke subcutaneous blood vessels all over their body and had to go to the ER.
- Women discovering the secret name of the presiding demon over a city while praying while the men were nowhere to be found
Most women don't have the luxury of staying home, most of us work. For years on end I got up early and drove to the church to pray before work. Came home, made dinner, and after my family was settled in for the night often times prayed in the evening also.

The church I used to attend was open every morning for early AM prayer and for an hour of pre service prayer before every service, men and women travailed before God and we had revival like I have never seen before or since.

It's not a competition, we need everyone praying and seeking the face of god, men, women and children alike.
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Old 01-18-2017, 12:34 PM
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sometimes its ok to be face down . . .

Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."
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