Hamas guilty of war crimes says Amnesty

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by shazeep

when you pick a side, you lose.

Which is why we should be fair and pointed out what both sides are doing not just the Israelis

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Which is why we should be fair and pointed out what both sides are doing not just the Israelis

Right now I am pointing my finger at the side who is carrying guns, driving assault vehicles, and shooting / arresting rock throwing kids outside their borders and in the neighborhoods that those kids live in. That is not the right side to be on. Flip the coin and if Israel was staying in their territory and being attacked, then the attackers would be in the wrong. As long as they are not, the attacks on Israel are as justified as ours was on Japan after Pearl Harbor.

Being fair is accepting foreign troops in your neighborhood pushing your kids around. If you personally do not accept that, the Palestinians shouldnt have to. Unless you want to flush what our founders penned. If you stand by what our country values, you cannot accept or support apartheid occupation. Its not a gray principle.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

So you are a follower of Islam?

No. Not a blind supporter of Israel.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Why are you even in here?

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

H

After the war last year Israel took the opportunity to annex more land. You cannot deny that there are over a million people in fenced camps. You speak of genocide while siding with the only country in the world who has pushed these people into these camps and you make victims of people who leave their borders, drive people off of their property, and take it.

In 20 years there have been 28, only 28 Isrealis killed inside the internationally recognized borders of Israel. Unless you have better data you do not have a leg to stand on in this discussion. Israel is and always has been the agressor and Israel's "victims" are never "victimized" inside their own borders. You are like a lawyer making a case that your thief who got injured during a robbery deserves compensation for it. Where I am from if you get hurt trespassing or stealing tough stick. Dunno where you're from but what you are arguing for ain't what I was taught and it ain't my America. Defend your thieves elsewhere.

Palestinian christians agree with me not you. Holecaust survivors agree with me not you. Human rights organizations in the US and around the world agree with me not you. You and a few hard core warmongers will learn what we in the US and other countries have already learned. Fundamentally racist societies change or die.

Can you give me the link for only 28 killed?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

H

After the war last year Israel took the opportunity to annex more land. You cannot deny that there are over a million people in fenced camps. You speak of genocide while siding with the only country in the world who has pushed these people into these camps and you make victims of people who leave their borders, drive people off of their property, and take it.

In 20 years there have been 28, only 28 Isrealis killed inside the internationally recognized borders of Israel. Unless you have better data you do not have a leg to stand on in this discussion. Israel is and always has been the agressor and Israel's "victims" are never "victimized" inside their own borders. You are like a lawyer making a case that your thief who got injured during a robbery deserves compensation for it. Where I am from if you get hurt trespassing or stealing tough stick. Dunno where you're from but what you are arguing for ain't what I was taught and it ain't my America. Defend your thieves elsewhere.

Palestinian christians agree with me not you. Holecaust survivors agree with me not you. Human rights organizations in the US and around the world agree with me not you. You and a few hard core warmongers will learn what we in the US and other countries have already learned. Fundamentally racist societies change or die.

i guess there is pretty good evidence--even IDF admissions--that many rockets from Gaza may be false flags
http://www.globalresearch.ca/are-the...-flags/5396678

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Can you give me the link for only 28 killed?

I misquoted. 26. Here are their names and the dates.

Israeli IDF shot those two unarmed teens on the street-one on camera oops- a week before those boys were kidnapped, all outside their borders, last summer, then used the kidnapping as justification to "defend themselves". That's a crock. That's not self defense. It's agression using their own civilians as bait. Then accuse the Palestinians of "hiding behind civilians". Palestinian civilians they are hiding behind are in their own homes. Israeli civilians they are baiting with are way outside Israeli borders. We don't see the difference we are blind.

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/dissec...rocket-attacks

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

I misquoted. 26. Here are their names and the dates.

Israeli IDF shot those two unarmed teens on the street-one on camera oops- a week before those boys were kidnapped, all outside their borders, last summer, then used the kidnapping as justification to "defend themselves". That's a crock. That's not self defense. It's agression using their own civilians as bait. Then accuse the Palestinians of "hiding behind civilians". Palestinian civilians they are hiding behind are in their own homes. Israeli civilians they are baiting with are way outside Israeli borders. We don't see the difference we are blind.

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/dissec...rocket-attacks

Wii - this says that 26 have been killed by rocket or mortar attacks from Gaza.
Not the same as you stated above.
Still good info.
Thanks

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Right now I am pointing my finger at the side who is carrying guns, driving assault vehicles, and shooting / arresting rock throwing kids outside their borders and in the neighborhoods that those kids live in.

Hamas carries guns, they shoot rockets...oh guess what, they kill Palestinians.

Not only do they directly kill them, they intentionally put them in harms way like Saddam did with human shields
http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...ills-children/

http://www.worldtribune.com/2014/07/...an-protesters/

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/47...mas-war-crimes

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Can you give me the link for only 28 killed?

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...tiestotal.html