I need help!!! - Page 5

A239 · #41 03-19-2014, 06:40 PM

I didn't want to be in the system, again..

MissBrattified · #42 03-19-2014, 07:14 PM

Jacob, as much as I hate that this has been complicated for you, JD is correct. If you informed him of some sort of abuse, he is obligated, by law, to report it. If he didn't and that was discovered, he could be in trouble himself. We have some people who worked at a local Christian school in our area and went to jail because they waited two weeks to report an alleged rape. It's no laughing matter.

Unfortunately, if you wanted to stay in control of the situation, you probably shouldn't have informed anyone of details. As mature as you may seem, you are still legally a minor child, and that has ramifications for any adults that you confide in.

JD, you did the right thing.

KeptByTheWord · #43 03-19-2014, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JacobSauceda

I didn't want to be in the system, again..

MissB is right Jacob. JD acted because of the information you gave to him.

Since you have grandparents who care, we can pray that the authorities will give them the first choice to open their home to you, should that be the case.

n david · #44 03-19-2014, 08:05 PM

I'll likely be the lone ranger here, (again), but I think JD "acted stupidly" -- to use obama's quote.

Miss B, I'm sorry but you're incorrect. Mandatory reporting depends on the state. Not all states have mandatory reporting laws. JD had no "obligation" to report anything. Missouri law does not require mandatory reporting by ordinary citizens. Unless JD is a MO social worker, teacher, physician, nurse, counselor, child care provider, law enforcement officer, etc...he had no legal obligation to report anything. The reason the local Christian school workers you know got in trouble is because they worked in a mandatory reporting job. Had they just been the neighbors (again, depending on the state) they wouldn't have had to report.

I don't mean to insult you here, Jacob, but it has to be said. Does anyone know Jacob? JD, do you know him? How long have you known Jacob and his family, JD? Here's the problem: Jacob puts a post online, makes a claim and JD runs off and calls law enforcement. He doesn't know if it's the truth or not. Has no idea what's actually going on. "Here I come to save the day!" In reality, as Jacob said, you likely made things much worse.

After about JD's involvement, I read an interesting post from Jacob..."Well he just screwed everything up." And, "I didn't want to be in the system, again.."

So I'm sorry, but I'm not congratulating JD for doing what he did. I don't believe it was right. He has no knowledge of Jacob or his family. And again, I'm sorry Jacob, but I worked with enough teens in my life to have met many who lied about their parents or situation just so they could do what they wanted.

From your posts, it seems you want to run off and get engaged to this girl. I'm not a betting man, but I'd go out on a limb and say your parents are against this and have forbid it. So you decided to create a plan to get out of the house and get engaged to your girl.

If I'm right, and I could very well be completely wrong, but I've seen this scenario before; and if I'm right, you're right as well in saying JD screwed everything up. Because reporting allegations of abuse of any kind against parents could not only put Jacob in foster care, but could cause tremendous legal troubles for his parents. For all JD knows, they could be decent people.

A239 · #45 03-19-2014, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by n david

I'll likely be the lone ranger here, (again), but I think JD "acted stupidly" -- to use obama's quote.

Miss B, I'm sorry but you're incorrect. Mandatory reporting depends on the state. Not all states have mandatory reporting laws. JD had no "obligation" to report anything. Missouri law does not require mandatory reporting by ordinary citizens. Unless JD is a MO social worker, teacher, physician, nurse, counselor, child care provider, law enforcement officer, etc...he had no legal obligation to report anything. The reason the local Christian school workers you know got in trouble is because they worked in a mandatory reporting job. Had they just been the neighbors (again, depending on the state) they wouldn't have had to report.

I don't mean to insult you here, Jacob, but it has to be said. Does anyone know Jacob? JD, do you know him? How long have you known Jacob and his family, JD? Here's the problem: Jacob puts a post online, makes a claim and JD runs off and calls law enforcement. He doesn't know if it's the truth or not. Has no idea what's actually going on. "Here I come to save the day!" In reality, as Jacob said, you likely made things much worse.

After about JD's involvement, I read an interesting post from Jacob..."Well he just screwed everything up." And, "I didn't want to be in the system, again.."

So I'm sorry, but I'm not congratulating JD for doing what he did. I don't believe it was right. He has no knowledge of Jacob or his family. And again, I'm sorry Jacob, but I worked with enough teens in my life to have met many who lied about their parents or situation just so they could do what they wanted.

From your posts, it seems you want to run off and get engaged to this girl. I'm not a betting man, but I'd go out on a limb and say your parents are against this and have forbid it. So you decided to create a plan to get out of the house and engaged to your girl.

If I'm right, and I could very well be completely wrong, but I've seen this scenario before; and if I'm right, you're right as well in saying JD screwed everything up. Because reporting allegations of abuse of any kind against parents could not only put Jacob in foster care, but could cause tremendous legal troubles for his parents. For all JD knows, they could be decent people.

Thank you for seeing it my way. If I wanted to get them involved, I have the number myself.

A239 · #46 03-19-2014, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

MissB is right Jacob. JD acted because of the information you gave to him.

Since you have grandparents who care, we can pray that the authorities will give them the first choice to open their home to you, should that be the case.

This is what I'm hoping for. The only thing is I now feel bad for my parents.

A239 · #47 03-19-2014, 09:07 PM

I had a place to stay, and would be there soon, I know the people (my grandparents) and had everything planned out, and you decided for me that an extra year in foster care, with people I don't know, moving from home to home, most likely forced to go to church with that family (probably not my religion), and more is better for me. Really? How stupid can people get? I can understand that if I were younger, and had NO way out, then good job, but when someone has options, help them decide, but don't do it for them. You just prolonged things for another year. Thanks bro. I really appreciate the effort, and I understand that you were just looking out for my well being, and I thank you, but I made my decision, and then you screwed me over. And it's kinda creepy that you looked up my FB and my location and everything. You could've just traced the ip from your router. That would've been easier. Plus my FB got hacked like 2 years ago FYI. So, yeah. Thanks for nothing ig. God bless.

KeptByTheWord · #48 03-19-2014, 09:32 PM

I'm sorry Jacob that this is all so complicated. Perhaps this is a lesson for you, and for us all, to remember that an internet forum is not always the best place to solicit advice, and counsel. That warning was given to you earlier, and apparently you gave out info that maybe you shouldn't have. This is the risk you take in a situation like this.

I will spend time praying for you, and for your family that the Lord can somehow use this to bring about good into your life. I truly believe that He is able to do just that.

Jermyn Davidson · #49 03-19-2014, 09:50 PM

Jacob,
I did what I did out of concern, based on the seriousness of the situation you described to me.

I wasn't bound by law, but with knowledge comes a certain amount of responsibility.

You're not thinking of the "What If's", but I did and I am GLAD I got someone else involved.

You don't see it right now, but you are in a blessed situation. You told someone what was happening and the Lord allowed you to tell it to someone who cares enough to do something about it.

How many boys and girls go through what you're going through WITHOUT anyone "getting involved?"

How many of their situations turn even more tragic?

I am so glad I got involved and IF another minor were to tell me something similar to what you told me, I would "get involved" again.

Jermyn Davidson · #50 03-19-2014, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JacobSauceda

And it's kinda creepy that you looked up my FB and my location and everything.

It's not creepy at all and it took less than 10 minutes-- with the help of Google.

You're 16. I was pretty sure you'd be upset initially because you're 16.

Your being upset with me is something I can live with.