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Old 05-22-2007, 09:40 AM
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The Bible does clearly state it is her glory. GOD said that not Sis. Lumpkin or RR or the UPC or an ultra-con. God said if a woman have long hair it is a glory to her. If a lady though her consecration to God preserves the glory why would the Lord honor that dedication with a witness of His Spirit. Paul was correct for saying in the last days there would be "mockers and dispisers of those that are good." And some are on here.
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A woman's hair is her glory of course, and that is the case whether it's cut or not.
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A woman's hair is her glory of course, and that is the case whether it's cut or not.
Says "long hair" let her hair grow. You expected that.
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Says "long hair" let her hair grow. You expected that.
Yes, of course. But ........

Well, do we really want to go over it all again? LOL.
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that's kind of sweet actually. you can feel the sincerity in it
Sometimes you scare me Thad. Are you shockamoo folks really so into emotion and "feeling" things that doctrinal error bordering on mysticism are just "sweet"?
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Sometimes you scare me Thad. Are you shockamoo folks really so into emotion and "feeling" things that doctrinal error bordering on mysticism are just "sweet"?
And the folks who followed Jim Jones and Koresh (sp?) were sincere.....
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*sigh*

While I don't believe that having uncut hair is our ticket to all-power-with-God, I do hesitate to deny someone else's experience.

What I believe is that obedience and submission to God results in power and favor with God, and of course men can do that as well as women. Unfortunately when the power of God shows up, some women assume (because of what they've been taught) that the power is there because of their long hair (which could be in indirect source, depending on what you believe, and your submission to God accordingly).

The point being: Whether the woman is wrong about a point of doctrine or not does not mean that she is wrong about the power of God being in the room. She could be misdiagnosing the reason.

I've seen God show up and heal folks and fill people with the Holy Ghost and do all sorts of wonderful things in churches where the doctrine was WAY off. *shrug* Ask Him why.

I feel very uncomfortable analyzing, critiquing, questioning or denying someone else's experience with the power of God. I'd much rather discuss this topic from a more generic point of view. There are a lot of faithful, godly, powerful, anointed women who wear their hair long simply because they believe its the right thing to do in obedience to God, and I do believe that submission and that consecration does translate into favor and blessing from God in many cases. I just don't think it has to do with hair in particular so much as a consecrated life in general, and men are just as capable as women of devoting their lives in such a manner.

I don't think we can say that because we believe the doctrine may be erroneous that the experience must be false, and her account is scary or creepy...I think that is a huge overreaction. To me, that would be like discounting every powerful experience held by any trinitarian as false, simply because their doctrine is erroneous. I believe many people, right or wrong, have had powerful, meaningful, even miraculous experiences with God, that defy reason, and defy the boundaries we place on what is possible. How the person perceives and interprets that experience is impossible to predict.
I agree 100% with most of your post. It is only in the last paragrpah that we differ at all. I do think it is scary and creepy and even more when people are being erroneously taught to give "credit" to their hair for God's power showing up. If this path keeps being excused on the grounds that these people are "goodhearted" then OP's are doomed to a path of cultism for sure.
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Sometimes you scare me Thad. Are you shockamoo folks really so into emotion and "feeling" things that doctrinal error bordering on mysticism are just "sweet"?


I just don't make it a habit to mock peoples' relationships or experiences with God. God always confounded the wise and used things that may appear strange to us humans who are smarter then God lol
just like when he spit on the ground and used mud to heal a blind man. there are some here that would have accused Jesus of witch craft.
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I agree 100% with most of your post. It is only in the last paragrpah that we differ at all. I do think it is scary and creepy and even more when people are being erroneously taught to give "credit" to their hair for God's power showing up. If this path keeps being excused on the grounds that these people are "goodhearted" then OP's are doomed to a path of cultism for sure.
Of course all on here know that do NOT accept the 'magic hair' theory. However why would it be so strange that the Lord would bless these ladies personal consecration? There is NOT a person on this forum who has experienced the wonderful moving of the presence of the Lord that would like someone to lable them gullible or ignorant. When it happens it happens. How many services have you been in when it filled the buildings sometimes very unexpected but so real. This happened to these ladies NO it does not vindicated the teaching to the world but evidently it was a witness to this young lady seeking direction in that service. Are you saying God would not bless a personal consecration in a service. Although I believe the hair issue is Biblical and mandated on every woman who is to be raptured, there are issues that are personal in nature to me that I would not expect the world to do but I have been blessed and felt His presence nearer because of the consecrations I have made.
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