Is this true? I have never heard of such as a requirement for membership.
I am quoting from the Articles of Faith:
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We wholeheartedly disapprove of our people indulging in any activities which are not conducive to good Christianity and godly living, such as theaters, dances,mixed bathing or swimming, women cutting their hair, make-up, any apparel that immodestly exposes the body, all worldly sports and amusements, and unwholesome radio programs and music. Furthermore, because of the display of all these evils on television, we disapprove of any of our people having television sets in their homes. We admonish all of our people to refrain from any of these practices in the interest of spiritual progress and the soon coming of the Lord for His church.
Furthermore, I quote from the General Constitution:
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No minister having a television in his or her home shall be permitted to hold license or credentials with the United Pentecostal Church International. Furthermore, no United Pentecostal Church International minister shall be permitted to advertise or minister on television. This does not preclude unsolicited representatives of the news media covering functions.
If this is true, then NOT adopting such a resolution would also divide our fellowship. Some have already left because they don't want to be limited in how they can reach the lost
Prax, it is my long standing and heart felt belief that this has been the goal of a certain group within the UPCI since somewhere before 1992.
I strongly believe that the preference is "they go" but if that cannot be accomplished, "we go" will happen.
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I was not thinking of an org. in the sense the UPC is but I can see something along the lines of the AMF.
Perhaps a ministerial org. that could license and ordain like minded ministers and have some sort of minimum ultra con standards codified everyone would agree to.
The org could also provide legal standing as a non profit, etc and group benefits.
I think there are a lot of ultra cons who don't neccessarily share the AMF folks disdain for structure and some centralized organization. I am talking about the folks whose only gripe with the UPC is it becoming more "liberal", not one of how it is organized.
Most of the UPC guys I have spoken with have had their fill of organization and they feel stronger about it than myself. I belong to one they don't want any period.
The main reason no names were used is because the articles were actually somewhat of a "conglomeration" of opinions and/or research put forth by the various members of the committee. Each side had a "recording secretary" who gathered information and assembled it into articles. Thus, no one person could be said to have been the author.
That's the way I understand it. My brother-in-law is actually on the committee, and that's the way he explained it to me.
I admit my bias, but I was embarrased for the anti-resoultion camp.
Itwas all doomsday emotional rantings. The idea that they had to use a Charasmatic and an interview from years and years ago spoke volumes regarding how out of touch they really are.
I admit my bias, but I was embarrased for the anti-resoultion camp.
Itwas all doomsday emotional rantings. The idea that they had to use a Charasmatic and an interview from years and years ago spoke volumes regarding how out of touch they really are.
I have arrived at a very astute conclusion: Those who favor the resolution thought those opposed did a sorry job of presenting their case. Those opposed to the resolution thought those in favor did a sorry job of presenting their case.
In other words, I don't think anyone's mind was changed. Furthermore, I'm not surprised you were "embarrassed."
During the depression there were quite a few door-to-door type salesmen selling everything from Fuller Brush to Electrolux Vacuum cleaners. It was not uncommon in those days for a householder to receive four or five knocks from various salesmen who might be selling Encylcopedias or milk delivery services.
I would say that "times have changed and so have marketing." But I wont. The obvious is THE OBVIOUS. I might also say that the mentality among todays' householders is vastly different too. I am no different than most today, I resent telemarketers and especially someone knocking on my door to peddle their goods and especially their brand of religion.
So you instead want an advert on TV between half naked people in compromising situations and promotion of sinful lifestyles?
I was in a relative's home and took note of what was promoted on the tube. I reaffirmed right there why I don't even want Home & Garden, Discovery or Animal Planet in my home!
One on One is still the most effective evangelism. I had a lady run me down out side the local Rite-Aid to tell me "Jesus loves you." I would like to get her as a convert!!
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I have arrived at a very astute conclusion: Those who favor the resolution thought those opposed did a sorry job of presenting their case. Those opposed to the resolution thought those in favor did a sorry job of presenting their case.
In other words, I don't think anyone's mind was changed. Furthermore, I'm not surprised you were "embarrassed."
Well, it's obvious there is just no surprising you. Tell me KP, what will happen in Tampa? Is it gonna pass or fail?
So you instead want an advert on TV between half naked people in compromising situations and promotion of sinful lifestyles?
I was in a relative's home and took note of what was promoted on the tube. I reaffirmed right there why I don't even want Home & Garden, Discovery or Animal Planet in my home!
One on One is still the most effective evangelism. I had a lady run me down out side the local Rite-Aid to tell me "Jesus loves you." I would like to get her as a convert!!
It takes a long arm to reach the lost who are engulfed in the muck and mire of sin. But I understand that some might think that they are too holy to reach for the lost right in between advertisments for Viagra, and some other really embarassing ads that I could not endure listening to in mixed company. I understand that some consider themselves too holy to reach for the lost right in the midst of a steamy hot sexually explicit movie.
I hardly know what to think of those who do not want to get their little short, dwarf type arm with the least smudge of dirt on it. Surely Jesus would not have eaten with the harlots and the wicked to reach them, now would he?
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