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Old 10-29-2009, 01:41 PM
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I did listen to what Rush said. He may know what he is talking about. If the price is 750 million, Rush may be good for 1% of that. 1% percent and the fact that Rush was told from the beginning it had no managerial interest attached.

The next point seems as pathetic as their winning record is, I have no choice but to be convinced they aren't working for their current boss either. Zero wins this year. It is time for reality therapy.
The players I'm referring to are not ones who currently play for the Rams. The concern was that key players who would be desirable free agents were voicing that they would not work for him.
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Other than two statements actually made by Rush - the McNabb statement and the bloods vs crips statement, there's nothing else he's said about it to suggest anything. You've got this one author - who nobody has been able to contact - who put some false quotes in a book, which was then picked up by a St. Louis P/D writer, who did nothing to vett the quote, just ran with them and accused Limbaugh of saying these racist things.

After that, Sharpton, Jackson and the others picked the false quotes up and did what they do best ... stir up racial outrage.

Now about the McNabb quote ... here's my takes on why Limbaugh said it.

The NFL now, and has for a few years, requires teams to interview at least one African American person for a coaching position. If not, there's a fine. Doesn't matter if the person is qualified or not; doesn't matter if the team has a coach they really want to hire who would accept the job if offered ... instead they have to go through all these motions.

Remember the hubbub when the Colts won the Super Bowl, and how the media was fixated on Dungy being the first African American coach to win the Super Bowl. All the media seemed to focus on was race.

Because of that, and because there hasn't been a dominant QB in the NFL who's African American, Limbaugh said what he said.

The media and NFL wanted Dungy to succeed and focused on that after the Colts won ... and the media and NFL want an African American QB to succeed as none has previously.

Dare I say it ... Rush was right.


The reason they were saying that is because of Sharpton, Jackson and the head of the Players Union (who is African American) all joining together to demand that players and employees speak out and voice their opinion against Limbaugh.

And how many voiced their displeasure ... the Players Union guy, one owner, and a couple players ... not quite the uprising that the media made it out to be.
As to the statements that are innacurrately attributed to Rush, I ignore those. The ones I referenced (the one about Obama and reparations, and the two specifically about the NFL) were the only ones that I addressed.

As to his statement about McNabb, anyone who follows football and looks at the stats and sees who has consistently put up good numbers particularly without dominant receivers...would probably argue that McNabb does not get credit simply because he is black.

I'm not saying that race has not been an issue in the past in the NFL and that people do celebrate when a coach or player breaks historic barriers. What I am saying is that if someone came along who people already questioned as to matters of race and said that Dungy was undeserving and only got credit because he was black, they would be wrong and probably catch some backlash from other players, coaches, and the media that they were accusing.

And contrary to what you seem to think, most blacks in America do not take their cue or marching orders from Sharpton or Jesse. Those are two of the most laughed at men in black America. The players that were quoted were quoted immediately after learning of this, not after some sort of meeting or devised strategy.
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The players I'm referring to are not ones who currently play for the Rams. The concern was that key players who would be desirable free agents were voicing that they would not work for him.
I could be wrong, but I thought I paid close enough attention to this ... from what I read/heard on the news there weren't many players who were against it. A very small minority in comparison.

The big mouths, as usual, were Sharpton and Jackson. Then there was the Players Union guy that demanded the players speak out against it ... which is ridiculous.

If a poll were taken of players, I bet Limbaugh would have had a majority who wouldn't be bothered with him being a money only, non controlling part owner.
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Old 10-29-2009, 02:03 PM
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I could be wrong, but I thought I paid close enough attention to this ... from what I read/heard on the news there weren't many players who were against it. A very small minority in comparison.

The big mouths, as usual, were Sharpton and Jackson. Then there was the Players Union guy that demanded the players speak out against it ... which is ridiculous.

If a poll were taken of players, I bet Limbaugh would have had a majority who wouldn't be bothered with him being a money only, non controlling part owner.
I addressed in my last post just how much I think Jackson and Sharpton had to do with this. I was hearing immediate reactions from players.

Most people who know football just know that what he said about McNabb is just way off. Now people absolutely have been way off about football before. The issue here is that because of how he was already perceived, coming in and pulling that race card just did not make sense.
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Old 10-29-2009, 02:36 PM
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Yeah, I didn't see the reply on Sharpton/Jackson until after I submitted my post.

On the players, there were probably more against it than what I heard initially

In other news ... did anyone hear what happened to Bob Griese from ABC/ESPN...

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During ESPN's broadcast of the Minnesota-Ohio State game Saturday, a graphic was shown listing the top five drivers in NASCAR's points race. Fellow analyst Chris Spielman asked where was Montoya, who is Colombian.

Griese replied he was "out having a taco."
Griese has been suspended for the next broadcast.

Is this really an insult? Or have we become too sensitive? I mean, what if Griese was asked, "Where's Ricky Bobby," and replied with "at the bar having a beer." I doubt anything would've been said about it. Nor would "wonder where Gordon's at." "Probably having a burger."

I don't get it...sorry.

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Yeah, I didn't see the reply on Sharpton/Jackson until after I submitted my post.

On the players, there were probably more against it than what I heard initially

In other news ... did anyone hear what happened to Bob Griese from ABC/ESPN...



Griese has been suspended for the next broadcast.

Is this really an insult? Or have we become too sensitive? I mean, what if Griese was asked, "Where's Ricky Bobby," and replied with "at the bar having a beer." I doubt anything would've been said about it. Nor would "wonder where Gordon's at." "Probably having a burger."

I don't get it...sorry.

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I didn't catch that. I'm surprised that someone as seasoned as Griese would go there. I do think that we have become too sensitive in many ways. However, I think that whenever you're dealing with a situation of someone being a drastic minority in a field or maybe one of the first few "of their type" in a field...the level of sensitivity goes up. For example, if Danica Patrick were the driver in this instance and he had made a very obvious female related statement, the result would have probably been the same.
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I didn't catch that. I'm surprised that someone as seasoned as Griese would go there. I do think that we have become too sensitive in many ways. However, I think that whenever you're dealing with a situation of someone being a drastic minority in a field or maybe one of the first few "of their type" in a field...the level of sensitivity goes up. For example, if Danica Patrick were the driver in this instance and he had made a very obvious female related statement, the result would have probably been the same.
I can see your point. When I saw the headline of him being suspended for a racial comment, I thought it would be something more though.

I was scratching my head as to why he would insert that ...
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We live in a country of overly sensitive pansies now. Most of whom are just waiting for a chance to sue since that is treated liek the lottery.

The taco joke was funny. My buddy charles is black. We joke all the time about watermelon and chicken. He razzes me about being white. Neither of us cry and look to lawyer up because THEY ARE JUST JOKES. And most funny jokes have a lot of truth to them.
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griese said montoya was out gettin a taco, he got a weeks suspension, he is a football guy anyway, not political correct ususally gets people in trouble these days, dt
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We got the Hutch. Hutch from Seattle, nice to have you, sir. The Super Bowl coming up, you said "enhttp://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_013108/content/01125115.guest.html.guest.htmlough politics" in the e-mail.
Rush has a friend ex Football player. Why do we accept lines from sharpton and Jackson who are football outsiders and don't know Rush?

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