I agree there are people like that. But, I know people who have called a black person the "N" word and they don't dislike black people at all. I guess it's the same as calling someone a sorry....... - yikes - how did I remember that word?!!
?????? That doesn't compute with me. I've heard that word used numerous times by white people, and NEVER without a tone of dislike or disdain to accompany it. If they don't dislike black people, why would they call them a vicious name?
If someone uses such a word and they don't "dislike black people", then someone in their vicinity needs to give them a very QUICK education--so they can stop being so stupid.
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?????? That doesn't compute with me. I've heard that word used numerous times by white people, and NEVER without a tone of dislike or disdain to accompany it. If they don't dislike black people, why would they call them a vicious name?
If someone uses such a word and they don't "dislike black people", then someone in their vicinity needs to give them a very QUICK education--so they can stop being so stupid.
What's the difference in a black guy calling his black friend the "N' word and his white friend calling him that - even when they are angry? I've seen that a lot and I know each doesn't have a problem with the respective races.
Calling someone the "B" word doesn't make that person hate women. It just means they need to clean up their language.
Some people do use the "N" word because they don't respect blacks and some use the "B" word because they don't respect women. But, many use it because it's in their vocabulary and they choose to say those words.
Sorry, I just don't agree that it's always a race issue - just a vocabulary choice.
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Reason: changed from vocabulary issue to choice
I was raised in the south where when I was a child black people were called negros. Then they said they didn't like that and they wanted to be called colored people. Then they didn't like that and they wanted to be called "Black". So I never thought the N word was negative, any more than I think Hispanic is negative. It was just the way that race was referred to.
Working on the family tree I think we have the 57 Hines variety blood type.
I don't consider myself a racist. I see people for what they are. One of my very closest friends is a black as she can be. I spend the night in her home and vice versa. In fact, she introduced me to someone recently as a part of the family. That had to be a hoot, because I am as about white as white can be. lol
I did not like Clinton or what his administration did, but it wasn't racist. It was the same as OB, I didn't like his agenda.
I don't trust OB, I just disliked Clinton. I do not believe OB is an American. He was not raised in America to have the American values. IMO
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What's the difference in a black guy calling his black friend the "N' word and his white friend calling him that - even when they are angry? I've seen that a lot and I know each doesn't have a problem with the respective races.
Calling someone the "B" word doesn't make that person hate women. It just means they need to clean up their language.
Some people do use the "N" word because they don't respect blacks and some use the "B" word because they don't respect women. But, many use it because it's in their vocabulary and they choose to say those words.
Sorry, I just don't agree that it's always a race issue - just a vocabulary issue.
PO, I would just as soon see the word magically disappear, but I do not agree with your assessment of people calling people that devoid of racist undertone. In younger circles there are black and white kids who use the term interchangeably I know, but that is not the same as what we traditionally refer to as calling a person a nigger.
Many times you can tell the intent by who it is said to. I don't like it, but I hear black and white kids use that term to each other in conversation...not in anger. Calling someone that in anger or saying it about them when they are not around is another thing in my opinion.
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I was raised in the south where when I was a child black people were called negros. Then they said they didn't like that and they wanted to be called colored people. Then they didn't like that and they wanted to be called "Black". So I never thought the N word was negative, any more than I think Hispanic is negative. It was just the way that race was referred to.
Working on the family tree I think we have the 57 Hines variety blood type.
I don't consider myself a racist. I see people for what they are. One of my very closest friends is a black as she can be. I spend the night in her home and vice versa. In fact, she introduced me to someone recently as a part of the family. That had to be a hoot, because I am as about white as white can be. lol
I did not like Clinton or what his administration did, but it wasn't racist. It was the same as OB, I didn't like his agenda.
I don't trust OB, I just disliked Clinton. I do not believe OB is an American. He was not raised in America to have the American values. IMO
Esther, I don't see how what you said leads up to the conclusion that the N word is not negative. Throughout all the changes you discussed, the one constant was that the N word was very much used as a negative slur in relation to black people.
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PO, I would just as soon see the word magically disappear, but I do not agree with your assessment of people calling people that devoid of racist undertone. In younger circles there are black and white kids who use the term interchangeably I know, but that is not the same as what we traditionally refer to as calling a person a nigger.
Many times you can tell the intent by who it is said to. I don't like it, but I hear black and white kids use that term to each other in conversation...not in anger. Calling someone that in anger or saying it about them when they are not around is another thing in my opinion.
I agree that you can tell the intent by who it is said to or who said it.
But, I still think, many times, it's a vocabulary choice and not always a "divisive" undertone or a "divisive' vocabulary choice. I think some lump it in with all the other curse words they use, like the "F" word.
I think we are all, naturally, very well aware of color, but not always in a "divisive" way.
Esther, I don't see how what you said leads up to the conclusion that the N word is not negative. Throughout all the changes you discussed, the one constant was that the N word was very much used as a negative slur in relation to black people.
I agree, and we should all know that that's how a some people view President Obama. And not just white people.
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