I think it will probably be difficult for any president to address school students without causing an outcry, simply because political feelings run so high on both sides of the aisle.
...Now let me bring up the dangerous precedent or position that this outcry might be establishing. If the religious right objects to a sitting President talking to public (government run) schools...what defense can we raise when people object to preachers and ministers like myself going in to talk to student bodies. I currently do this, but I'm sure that there are many who can use this to protest that fundamentally my leanings should prevent me from talking to students....or maybe in the future I will have to release my entire speech for approval.
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That is interesting. The paragraph cited is what caused the concern, which the Obama Administration corrected. I'm glad someone cried foul so that he would not override the will of the people.
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A suggested lesson plan that calls on school kids to write letters to themselves about what they can do to help President Obama is troubling some education experts, who say it establishes the president as a "superintendent in chief" and may indoctrinate children to support him politically.
The lesson plans study the difference in "biography" and "autobiography". They go on, as others suggested Obama should have projected in the first place, a lesson plan going over freedom, diplomacy, intelligence, liberty, giving and humaritarian aid.
If people didn't mistrust him so much, there wouldn't have been such an outcry. That's something to think about.
...Now let me bring up the dangerous precedent or position that this outcry might be establishing. If the religious right objects to a sitting President talking to public (government run) schools...what defense can we raise when people object to preachers and ministers like myself going in to talk to student bodies. I currently do this, but I'm sure that there are many who can use this to protest that fundamentally my leanings should prevent me from talking to students....or maybe in the future I will have to release my entire speech for approval.
He's tainted by association, tstew. He has to live with that. That's what the outcry is about.
...Now let me bring up the dangerous precedent or position that this outcry might be establishing. If the religious right objects to a sitting President talking to public (government run) schools...what defense can we raise when people object to preachers and ministers like myself going in to talk to student bodies. I currently do this, but I'm sure that there are many who can use this to protest that fundamentally my leanings should prevent me from talking to students....or maybe in the future I will have to release my entire speech for approval.
I would expect these objections to come soon anyway, if they haven't already.
He's tainted by association, tstew. He has to live with that. That's what the outcry is about.
PO, the point I'm making is that sometimes we don't think all these things through. You may feel he is tainted, but he is the sitting President of the United States, the man who in many ways is ultimately responsible for public schools...and we have to live with that...
I'm saying that we can't have it both ways. We resist those who don't agree with our Christian viewpoints trying to push us ministers and pastors out of schools...
I think that in making this big outcry that regardless of what Obama is going to say, we don't want him talking to our public schools because we don't like his beliefs is a dangerous position, given that his position gives him that right much more than the local preacher.
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There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
PO, the point I'm making is that sometimes we don't think all these things through. You may feel he is tainted, but he is the sitting President of the United States, the man who in many ways is ultimately responsible for public schools...and we have to live with that...
I'm saying that we can't have it both ways. We resist those who don't agree with our Christian viewpoints trying to push us ministers and pastors out of schools...
I think that in making this big outcry that regardless of what Obama is going to say, we don't want him talking to our public schools because we don't like his beliefs is a dangerous position, given that his position gives him that right much more than the local preacher.
I understand what you are saying and we could be cutting off our nose in spite of our face (is that the saying?).
What disturbed me the most about all this was the pre-video that they were going to show of all the stars "pledging" to Obama. I think that was sending the wrong message.
PO, the point I'm making is that sometimes we don't think all these things through. You may feel he is tainted, but he is the sitting President of the United States, the man who in many ways is ultimately responsible for public schools...and we have to live with that...
I'm saying that we can't have it both ways. We resist those who don't agree with our Christian viewpoints trying to push us ministers and pastors out of schools...
I think that in making this big outcry that regardless of what Obama is going to say, we don't want him talking to our public schools because we don't like his beliefs is a dangerous position, given that his position gives him that right much more than the local preacher.
Stew,
The uproar was the ambiguous wording of his proposed lesson plan. We need to STOP overlooking that important point. That is a very far cry from trying to censure him from speaking to the public school system.
He is going to be accountable and I hope that everyone after him gets the same outcry from the public - both Republican and Democrat. I think with Twitter and other venues, we will.
I would have had no problem with him giving a back-to-school speech, but DON"T stick an ambiguous anything in my face. You will hear from me.
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