Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
You nailed it. If I'm not saved unless I look exactly right, then I'm not saved at all.
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
I guess this means I am going through some kind of change or something.
Outside of the misspellings, and the pictures that almost contradicted or even contradicted the diagram, I well didn't see anything wrong with it.
But even as I type, I am thinking of the phrase, "holiness standards". This implies that one should dress according to these guidelines in order to be holy. If you don't abide by these guidelines, then you're not holy. If you're not holy, then you're not saved because, "holiness without, no man shall see the Lord."
So now I am forced to look this way because if I don't, I'm not saved.
It's this kind of thinking that feeds the idea that Apostolics are cultish and that they themselves are not even saved!
I rebuke these thoughts of heresy in the name of Jesus!
The blood of Jesus saves!
The blood of Jesus keeps me saved!
My salvation is all about Jesus!
I am saved by His Grace and for His Glory!!
Halleulujah!
Jesus Saves!!!
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Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
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Originally Posted by jaxfam6
No I would not. First it is ONLY for women. Second it has the word "in-modest" used, what exactly does that mean?
Here is the what they say: "Be careful with stretchy skirts. They tend to cling to you and may look good, but can end up being in-modest. If in doubt don't wear it."
Taken from the church website http://www.bostonupc.org/message.php?topicID=9753&
So what exactly does "in-modest" mean?
Please get someone to edit your websites. It is one thing to have a word spelled incorrectly in a forum or a personal page but to have a business or church website with words that are misspelled, or completely made up, makes you look "redneck", or plan ignorant.
plan ignorant???
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Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
God knows I posted this not to be blasphemous, but to assert my faith that salvation comes and is maintained through the Blood of Jesus-- not by rules and regulations and standards of such.
Agreed
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Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
kinda reminds me of a black Oneness church I saw where they told visitors not to come unless they dressed according to their standards...they are very VERY small church
A few years ago a man (JZ) I worked with told me very proudly that at the Baptist Church where he was going, a woman is not even allowed in the door if she is wearing pants. This applies even to florists delivering flowers for weddings or funerals.
Their pastor stopped by their house. JZ's wife was on her hands and knees in the yard planting or weeding flowers and she had pants on. As the pastor approached the house he saw how she was dressed and abruptly turned around, got in his car, and drove off.
Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
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Originally Posted by ILG
If that's what they believe, they may as well be up front.
Exactly! I'm for full disclosure, not bait-n-switch! Put up your requirements for salvation, too. All the steps, and the maintenance requirements. All the rules. A few videos of typical services would be nice, too. Some folks like shock-a-moo, some don't. A well informed consumer is able to make better choices!
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Re: Would you put up a holiness chart on your webs
I'm in agreement with modesty, and is isn't a bad guideline, (minus the spelling errors), but I don't think it should be on their website. That's something that could be shared in a teaching setting, passed on from an older woman to younger women, as the practical application of a biblical principle. And some explanation as to the whys and hows should accompany the teaching.
The fact that its only for women makes the church look sexist and demeaning toward women, the fact that it includes spelling errors makes them look uneducated, and the fact that its priority enough to show the general public before they even attend the church makes them look like Pharisees. (More concerned with appearances than the heart.)
It may be that none of those assumptions are true, but that is likely how it will appear to people who aren't familiar with church traditions.
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