Another SPLIT from the UPCI???

[n david]

Sounds like it was a good meeting. Wish I could've been there.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by moniker

The sheer volume of names involved in this "invitation only" meeting.

All liberal. Most, very educated.

The more important question is "why was this meeting necessary, and what events conspired to make it invitation only?"

Do you have to ask? Before the meeting happened, those of other persuasions (Holiness or Hell) were crying fowl.

Somethings needed to be done on the low down, akin to Jesus telling those he healed not tell anyone less his message be crowded out by the wonder seekers.

My point being that not all will understand this meeting and they wanted some level of unity without having to jump through the hoops of reaffirming that we are a one God, tongue talking, true holiness movement that many of these larger gatherings have to jump through lest you be labeled something that your not.

[moniker]

Originally Posted by James Griffin

The meeting was one of fellowship and unity.

The spirit was the opposite of splitting, it was fellowship and how the next generation of preachers can reach the world with the Apostolic message from WITHIN the UPCI

That is my understanding.

The meeting was held to form alliances with like-minded individuals throughout the country. Who can know what changes will come from such a great effort?

[Sarah]

Originally Posted by James Griffin

The meeting was one of fellowship and unity.

The spirit was the opposite of splitting, it was fellowship and how the next generation of preachers can reach the world with the Apostolic message from WITHIN the UPCI

If this is the truth, then I see no problem with it. My only question is: why couldn't these men discuss this at General Conference where ALL ministers could get involved?

[Maple Leaf]

Originally Posted by James Griffin

The meeting was one of fellowship and unity.

The spirit was the opposite of splitting, it was fellowship and how the next generation of preachers can reach the world with the Apostolic message from WITHIN the UPCI

Originally Posted by Sarah

If this is the truth, then I see no problem with it. My only question is: why couldn't these men discuss this at General Conference where ALL ministers could get involved?

I think that the record will bear out that Bro. Griffin is a truthful man.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Sarah

If this is the truth, then I see no problem with it. My only question is: why couldn't these men discuss this at General Conference where ALL ministers could get involved?

There is the sense that not all ministers would want to or even understand the vision of these men.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

I am not on here much anymore, but, thought some of you would like to hear this piece of information:

There was an "invitation only" meeting in Detroit this past week to talk about the formation of a new organization. This is not an "emergent group" and not an "ultra con" group...but one with the same doctrinal views minus some of the "other" stuff.

Two prominent UPCI leaders were the speakers at this meeting.

Anyone else hear anything about this??

Wrong info SoCali!
Why don't you contact some of the Ministers in your State?

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by Justin

But only for the liberal-minded Apostolics?

Labeling? One man's liberal is another man's conservative.

FRIENDS invited friends. Size was limited to facilitate discussion and interaction.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Sarah

If this is the truth, then I see no problem with it. My only question is: why couldn't these men discuss this at General Conference where ALL ministers could get involved?

One problem with that ... it would go from a productive conversation to an all-out shouting match and nothing would get done.

This was the right way to do it, IMO.

[ForeverBlessed]

Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

Boy, they sure didn't do a very good job of hiding it, did they?

I am not UPC, live in the hinterlands of nowhere, and heard about it before it happened.

well, I am no longer attending upc, live in the burbs and I heard about it too... of course I do have my upc friends and family. You're are right...no secret.

btw, it is hot and humid here and I just got in from break where I sat in the sun... whew... believe me it is hot and I would enjoy your weather... it jumps too fast into the hot stuff here.