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Old 06-10-2009, 12:33 PM
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Re: Paul And Women Teachers.

Wonder what would happen if women of God would be called TEACHERS instead of
apostles, prophets, evangelists and pastors. WHERE, Oh where are the teachers.
There is a definite lack of teachers, regardless of gender.

How many men have taught their own children the Word of God, beginning
in the home. Paul thought a man should first be able to care for his own be
fore he took care of the Lord's.


It takes two, a man and a woman to have natural babies.
It takes the Spirit (Father) and a woman (the Church) to have Spiritual babies.

The rooster struts around the barnyard, with his chest stuck out, crowing like
he had done it all. The hen sits on the nest, keeping the fertilized eggs warm until
the chicks have formed and are ready and strong enough to peck their way out.

Notice who the chicks are usually with in the barnyard! They are following Mama Hen,
the mother who laid the egg (the rooster provided the fertilizer) and struts away. He
no doubt feels he's done his part. The responsibility has JUST REALLY begun!

I am saying this, just because a man sowed the seed, doesn't make him a true father.
Most men can sow seed, but can they give birth, breast feed, calm, and hold the babies
until they are big enough to do for themselves. I have to say, some men do all they
can to help take care of the little ones he and his wife brought forth together.
God
made it so that the two together would be one flesh (unit). Takes two to produce a child,
whether in the church or home.

God made them male and female, for a purpose. A TEAM, if you will. Each having their
God-given roles and responsibilities. We had better forget this egotisical male role
and women's lib ideas. God is not pleased with the spirit of division that the enemy
has sown in families to cause division in the home and in the church. God hates it!
It was conceived by a spirit of PRIDE and God hates your nasty pride, be it his or
hers. Your families lives, spiritually and maybe otherwise could be at stake!


Not for offense ever!

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Old 06-10-2009, 12:38 PM
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Wonder what would happen if women of God would be called TEACHERS instead of
apostles, prophets, evangelists and pastors. WHERE, Oh where are the teachers.
There is a definite lack of teachers, regardless of gender.

How many men have taught their own children the Word of God, beginning
in the home. Paul thought a man should first be able to care for his own be
fore he took care of the Lord's.


It takes two, a man and a woman to have natural babies.
It takes the Spirit (Father) and a woman (the Church) to have Spiritual babies.

The rooster struts around the barnyard, with his chest stuck out, crowing like
he had done it all. The hen sits on the nest, keeping the fertilized eggs warm until
the chicks have formed and are ready and strong enough to peck their way out.

Notice who the chicks are usually with in the barnyard! They are following Mama Hen,
the mother who laid the egg (the rooster provided the fertilizer) and struts away. He
no doubt feels he's done his part. The responsibility has JUST REALLY begun!

I am saying this, just because a man sowed the seed, doesn't make him a true father.
Most men can sow seed, but can they give birth, breast feed, calm, and hold the babies
until they are big enough to do for themselves. I have to say, some men do all they
can to help take care of the little ones he and his wife brought forth together.
God
made it so that the two together would be one flesh (unit). Takes two to produce a child,
whether in the church or home.

God made them male and female, for a purpose. A TEAM, if you will. Each having their
God-given roles and responsibilities. We had better forget this egotisical male role
and women's lib ideas. God is not pleased with the spirit of division that the enemy
has sown in families to cause division in the home and in the church. God hates it!
It was conceived by a spirit of PRIDE and God hates your nasty pride, be it his or
hers. Your families lives, spiritually and maybe otherwise could be at stake!


Not for offense ever!

Falla39
True it takes both however the male sows the seed the woman recieves the seed. The seed is the Word of God. And the male is the sower. No offence.
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Old 06-10-2009, 02:14 PM
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Re: Paul And Women Teachers.

All believers are “priests” in Christ. So, all believers are to sow the Seed of the Word/Jesus.
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Just got in from preaching next door to where I am staying...Lions at Jordan...I will let you use the title Brother Epley!
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True it takes both however the male sows the seed the woman recieves the seed. The seed is the Word of God. And the male is the sower. No offence.


and that sounds like WB....
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Old 06-10-2009, 02:18 PM
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Just got in from preaching next door to where I am staying...Lions at Jordan...I will let you use the title Brother Epley!
Remember I ordained your anti-jewelry preaching grandaughter.
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Old 06-10-2009, 02:29 PM
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John 4: 39 Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman's testimony, "He told me everything I ever did." 40So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. 41And because of his words many more became believers.

Sounds like she did some planting!
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Old 06-10-2009, 02:35 PM
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True it takes both however the male sows the seed the woman recieves the seed. The seed is the Word of God. And the male is the sower. No offence.
Dear Brother,

I know you mean no offense and I don't take any offence to your words.

As a woman, I know how it feels to not be able to speak from a woman's
point of view. She receives but it would seem she should be able/allowed
to respond. Both participating. Works better that way.


Could it be that this quenching of her input, cause resentment in her. She
goes through the labour but cannot say anything. She feels cheated perhaps,
like he is doing her a favor.

Her husband is the man and everything is focused on him. She looks to him
as if she didn't have a mind independent of his. He dies and she is left feeling
lost and alone. Whereas if she had developed a personal relationship with
her God, she would be connected to the main source of peace and comfort
for herself. I have seen minister's wives who seemed lost and when left alone
without that deep personal relationship with the Lord, was overtaken by the
enemy (she thought he had taken care of the enemy. After all he was the MAN."

She struggles with the confusion of never having any say or responsibility
in spiritual matters. She feels so alone. He always took care of her and
wasn't he responsible for making sure she was comforted. Where is the
Comforter, she wonders. When you are gone, can your wife survive and be
able to utter a word. The words of the wise are as goads.

I received (the Word of God) the Holy Ghost fifty years ago last year (1958).
I have so much Word in me that I feel if I don't get some of it out, I will burst
wide open. I guess it would all come out then. Do we have to get in the grave
before we burst open from the POWER that worketh in us!

I have listened for 69, (will be 70 yrs in Sept.) Since there is neither male
nor female in Christ, why would she have to be silent forever! Paul said when
he was a child, he acted, thought, etc. BUT when he became a man (mature)
he put away childish things. I came from what is known as "The Silent Gene-
ration", those who were told, "children are to be seen and not heard". But
we are no longer children for we have matured and no longer identify with
"childish things". Many have been equipped but made to "quench the Spirit",
by man.

In a few weeks, my husband and I will celebrate our 50th Wedding Anniv.
We have both loved and learned many things through these many years.
We have had our struggles But we love and live together as man and wife.
BUT we each, as individuals, have our own private, personal relationship
with our GOD!

Through the years, when we wanted to express our love for one another,
we didn't do it in the church. In front of everyone there. We took that re-
lationship to our bedroom.

When I want to express my deepest love for my GOD, I don't do it at church
in front of everyone. I take that to my prayer closet, where ever I can get
alone with HIM. I don't ask my husband to share this time with me. It's a time
for me and my own relationship with my GOD! We both understand this and it
is fine. There are times we both come together with God. We pray as a man
and a woman. (humans). We pray as a team for each other, our family, and
others.

Sis. Nona Freeman, Sis. Vesta Mangun, Sis. Alvear, Sis. Joy Haney and many
others have been vocal. They will and have been able to survive if their hus-
band was taken, because they had a one on one personal relationship with
God, seperate from their husbands.

A personal (Just God and one) relationship with God. Not just a earthly re-
lationship with their husband But a deep heavenly relationship with their GOD.

Surely there are no husbands that are jealous of their wife having a personal
relationship with GOD!!! That she can't have a relationship with God without
going through you!

This is not directed toward Bro. Epley alone, but to those who can receive
it!

Not for offense either!

Falla39

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Just got in from preaching next door to where I am staying...Lions at Jordan...I will let you use the title Brother Epley!
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Remember I ordained your anti-jewelry preaching grandaughter.
yes and she is preaching up a storm! Planting and sowing the gospel seed...
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