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01-22-2009, 12:20 AM
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Crazy father of 4
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Location: Now? Phoenix, AZ. Before? Newark, OH, Wyandotte, MI, Tampa, FL
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Re: Ultra Conservatives 'Go Hollywood'
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Originally Posted by Terry G.
Lemon, I almost gave up hope. I am so glad you see that. Exactly what I am so concerned about. How would my critics feel if LB or one of the other WPF leaders were their personal friend? Watching their soul get tangled in the trap of the world's lair? Not many Apostolics know how I weep and agonize and travail for LB. I don't ask anything from God for the privilege, only God abundantly deliver and minister to him an everlasting open door entrance into Heaven. My Flock highly esteem me. I have no rebellious Saints in my Church. I Never Ever have to remind them I am an Elder. My Saints and God know me. I do believe I have been misjudged on this forum. And I fear lest any be tempted from obeying the Truth. May God have Mercy. Lemon is right on time! God Bless!
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Terry, I do not know you but I have concern whenever I read statements like these. First they are NOT YOUR flock. They are God's children. And then there are reasons to remind people that you are an elder? You are a servent of God and as such a servent to God's children. To feel a need to REMIND someone that you are an elder says you may have an ego problem or a control problem. (and yes I know what you said and I am not saying you have this issue just responding as I see it)
I love my pastor and back him 100%. Not because he is better than me or more spiritual than me but because he teaches truth and is a humble servent of God to those that are entrusted in his care.
Like I said, I do not know you and I am not assuming you really feel the way I perceive your comments, but I do feel concern whenever I hear or see such comments from someone entrusted with souls of others.
I simply find a minister of God 'reminding' others that they are the 'elder' or feeling the need to remind them as egotistical and/or controlling. Neither of those are godly or holy.
again I am not saying you are just responding to your comments.
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01-22-2009, 12:57 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Re: Ultra Conservatives 'Go Hollywood'
Jax, I just don't want to stumble anyone on their way to Heaven. Not an ego trip. Elders do watch over their flock...we continually wait upon this very thing...must give account to God for ewes in our charge...that we may do it with joy and not grief to be profitable for you. No ego problem. Understand many here haven't a clue who who is. My Saints eat in my home regularly. How many Pastors do that? Hope this soothes your fears. And I respect you. I dont try to control that is witchcraft. I try my best to lead by example. God uses men who are of a very sincere disposition. I am in it for Souls, nothing more, nothing less. My prayer is God raise up more genuine men of God. Good nite.
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01-22-2009, 12:58 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Re: Ultra Conservatives 'Go Hollywood'
Terry G.....
You don't get out much....LB is THE LAST MAN that I would EVER accuse of going 'Hollywood', or having a lifestyle of the 'rich and famous'. His house is very nice, but not lavish....NOT a mansion!!!! In your own words..."weekly speaking engagements across the Nation"....FYI Frequent flyers get perks. The other accusations like enjoying his pool and going to the beach...well, we all deserve a day off and vacations!
Look in the mirror and really be honest with your self....Does JEALOUSY have anything to do with this post?
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01-22-2009, 02:20 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Ultra Conservatives 'Go Hollywood'
Maybe we should not judge our brother but judge ourselves...I find LB to be an awesome man of God.
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01-22-2009, 08:10 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Wisconsin
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Re: Ultra Conservatives 'Go Hollywood'
Terry,
Have you ever talked to LB about this personally? If not, why not?
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01-22-2009, 08:21 AM
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Re: Ultra Conservatives 'Go Hollywood'
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Originally Posted by Terry G.
Prominent WPF CEO shares lifestyle is one of rich and famous. From elite prestigous golf course closed community mansion home, backyard pool parties, lamborginis, selling church website 'space' subscriptions, weekend getaways to the beach, Cancun, high dollar hotel stays and weekly speaking engagements across the Nation flying first class--Excuse me and Jesus, WHAT am I 'missing'? Has ULTRACON gone Hollywood? Somebody help me understand. Jesus was with the poor, lepers, and not near a grocery store or a Resort. Jesus never had a vacation. Do you feel and share my heartbeat for God? Anyone else notice odd activity among WPF folks? Your opinions, if you please.
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This has been a pet peeve of mine and looooooong time - it is not just WPF people either. Regardless of who it is it annoys me to NO end and it is something that I personally do NOT think God is pleased with. YES - we all need a break/vacation from time to time but to some there is not limit. I know a pator's daughter once whose dad bought her a jaguar and she was mad because she wanted a mercedes - guess what she got a mercedes. AND the amount of money some spend on clothes!!! Did they miss that scripture about costly array??? Once again picking and choosing what they want to believe - happens way too much in pentecost!
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01-22-2009, 08:33 AM
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Re: Ultra Conservatives 'Go Hollywood'
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Originally Posted by MomOfADramaQn
This has been a pet peeve of mine and looooooong time - it is not just WPF people either. Regardless of who it is it annoys me to NO end and it is something that I personally do NOT think God is pleased with. YES - we all need a break/vacation from time to time but to some there is not limit. I know a pator's daughter once whose dad bought her a jaguar and she was mad because she wanted a mercedes - guess what she got a mercedes. AND the amount of money some spend on clothes!!! Did they miss that scripture about costly array??? Once again picking and choosing what they want to believe - happens way too much in pentecost!
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This was one of my pet peeves the whole time I was in. Not because of jealousy as some suppose. It was hypocritical to me to teach against a dime store necklace and then wear very expensive clothes, have a very expensive house etc.
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When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
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01-22-2009, 08:38 AM
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Re: Ultra Conservatives 'Go Hollywood'
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Originally Posted by ILG
This was one of my pet peeves the whole time I was in. Not because of jealousy as some suppose. It was hypocritical to me to teach against a dime store necklace and then wear very expensive clothes, have a very expensive house etc.
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ABSOLUTELY - this is also one of the reasons why so many pentecostals have the reputation of being snobs -but you know - they will have to answer for that one day - not me - like I have always said and I have been criticized a lot for saying this - PENTECOSTALS ARE GOING TO BE SURPRISED WHO MAKES IT AND WHO DOES NOT MAKE IT TO HEAVEN!
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01-22-2009, 08:42 AM
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Re: Ultra Conservatives 'Go Hollywood'
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Originally Posted by MomOfADramaQn
ABSOLUTELY - this is also one of the reasons why so many pentecostals have the reputation of being snobs -but you know - they will have to answer for that one day - not me - like I have always said and I have been criticized a lot for saying this - PENTECOSTALS ARE GOING TO BE SURPRISED WHO MAKES IT AND WHO DOES NOT MAKE IT TO HEAVEN!
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Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb
When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
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01-22-2009, 01:35 PM
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Re: Ultra Conservatives 'Go Hollywood'
I think TerryG should talk to LB himself. Or maybe someone should email him his post from here???
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