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Old 04-05-2007, 09:37 PM
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So then you really believe that this preacher intentionally LIED. It couldn't simply have been a mistake? A misunderstanding? An exaggeration that got out of hand?

I've seen a lot of bad things over the past few years. Seen preachers intentionally lie and accept lies and I still have a hard time believing that good Godly men will do this kind of thing. Still have a hard time accepting it.

What's wrong with me anyhow?

But then, I've always been like this. Refusing to believe the worst about somebody unless there was proof. Even when it was happening to me/us!
honestly, i have doubts that this was a mistake.
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:20 PM
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So then you really believe that this preacher intentionally LIED. It couldn't simply have been a mistake? A misunderstanding? An exaggeration that got out of hand?

I've seen a lot of bad things over the past few years. Seen preachers intentionally lie and accept lies and I still have a hard time believing that good Godly men will do this kind of thing. Still have a hard time accepting it.

What's wrong with me anyhow?

But then, I've always been like this. Refusing to believe the worst about somebody unless there was proof. Even when it was happening to me/us!

Felicity, is an embellishment a lie? Is a fish story a lie? Is an exaggeration a lie? Is speaking evangelastically telling lies?

You know as well as I if you have been around long enough you will hear someone tell something that may not be just quite true.

Take for example the types of threads and posts around here, which ones get the most traffic? The ones that do not do any of the above, or those who like to stretch the truth juuuuuuuuuuust a little bit.
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:23 PM
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WHY??? Cmon Felicity, you aren't that wet behind the ears...you know folks coming out of the mainstream is a message that legitimizes the Apostolic movement...
Carp, we are the mainstream.

The only stream, actually.
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:27 PM
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Carp, we are the mainstream.

The only stream, actually.
See, I started this thread with a positive note that I was sure people would appreciate...but then I keep getting dragged into this organizational stuff!



The UPC is terrified with ever being mistaken as mainstream, it insults their sense of separation...


SEE??? THERE I go again!!

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Old 04-05-2007, 10:28 PM
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See, I started this thread with a positive note that I was sure people would appreciate...but then I keep getting dragged into this organizational stuff!



The UPC is terrified with ever being mistaken as mainstream, it insults their sense of separation...


SEE??? THERE I go again!!

I don't mean UPC.

I mean Apostolics who are born again.
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:29 PM
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What's your problem SoCaliUPC?? Why don't you say something with substance instead of just tossing this passive aggressive stuff at me...
Carp....

Like truimphant1 stated earlier...this thread might of well been titled that the other thread was a lie. Not one time in the other thread was the church or pastor alluded to. In the previous post, without naming the pastor, you pinpointed a title and vicinity pretty accurately.

"Okay Carp" and "So much for naming names" are not passive aggressive statements. Maybe in the first "OKay Carp.." I should have stated that what triumphant1 did and said...just call Thad a liar and the whole thread as one to.

Honestly, when news of this nature was being discussed on this forum, I thought it was supposed to be written in general statements as to not pinpoint a name or place...so that the issue behind the news could be discussed. If that has changed I would ask an Owner, Admin or Moderator to state so. I thought the other thread pretty much dealt with an issue with no name attached to it.
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:33 PM
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Carp....

Like truimphant1 stated earlier...this thread might of well been titled that the other thread was a lie. Not one time in the other thread was the church or pastor alluded to. In the previous post, without naming the pastor, you pinpointed a title and vicinity pretty accurately.

"Okay Carp" and "So much for naming names" are not passive aggressive statements. Maybe in the first "OKay Carp.." I should have stated that what triumphant1 did and said...just call Thad a liar and the whole thread as one to.

Honestly, when news of this nature was being discussed on this forum, I thought it was supposed to be written in general statements as to not pinpoint a name or place...so that the issue behind the news could be discussed. If that has changed I would ask an Owner, Admin or Moderator to state so. I thought the other thread pretty much dealt with an issue with no name attached to it.
Ok then, how do you explain all the PMs sent to me asking who I was talking about...
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:38 PM
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Ok then, how do you explain all the PMs sent to me asking who I was talking about...
If they are UPC, then people are not paying attention to who is who in the UPC. "2nd in command to GS" ; "NorCal".....

People who are not UPC or know it's structure probably would have not known this.

The only explanation I can give as to why people are PMing asking is because they want to know.
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Old 04-06-2007, 01:24 PM
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If they are UPC, then people are not paying attention to who is who in the UPC. "2nd in command to GS" ; "NorCal".....

People who are not UPC or know it's structure probably would have not known this.

The only explanation I can give as to why people are PMing asking is because they want to know.
I would submit that folks outside CA don't really have an interest, and folks in CA already knew the information before I wrote anythintg.

So...I suppose this whole thing is a non-issue right?
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Old 04-06-2007, 01:29 PM
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I would submit that folks outside CA don't really have an interest, and folks in CA already knew the information before I wrote anythintg.

So...I suppose this whole thing is a non-issue right?
I disagree on both points, but I will let you have the last word.
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