Here lies the problem in my opinion. Restaurants must have some pretty effective lobbyists. There are plenty of businesses that are in the service industry. I don't see why restaurants should be allowed to pay their people less than half of the minimum wage in some instances and basically demand that the consumer directly pay the majority of their payroll.
My thoughts exactly. If they think their waitstaff is worth more, they should pay them more...and let the consumer decide if they're worth a bonus.
We are good tippers...however, I HATE it when the restaurant automatically includes a tip for large parties. Usually they charge 15-18%, in which case, the waiter missed out, since we tip more than that. (We do sometimes add to it for really good service--but it irritates me that I'm being *forced* to do something I was already going to do anyway.)
Tipping should remain good etiquette, but it shouldn't be mandatory--or expected, even when the service is bad.
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--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
I was in a Shoney's type restaurant one Sunday having a cup of coffee. I noticed/heard the waitresses complaining about the group coming in. They were setting up long tables with high chairs, booster seats etc. I asked them what was wrong. They told me a group of Pentecostals came there most every Sunday, the children left a big mess and the adults did not tip or would leave a card with the plan of salvation for a "tip". Of course, no waitress wanted them in her section. I wouldn't either. Perhaps that is the case for the 15% being added to the bill. I wasn't even attending a church at the time but it left a lasting impression of the Pentecostals in that area.
On more than one occasion I've asked the manager to have the automatic gratuity (that was added for "my convenience") removed from my bill if I though I had received exceptionally poor service(I mean REALLY bad). If they refuse (none has yet) I'll just tell them I won't ever be back.
I find it awfully cavalier to mandate a "gratuity" that should be discretionary. I am typically a very generous tipper - usually around 20% for good service, more for great service. But to think that I'm required to leave a specific amount before I can even get out the door is offensive. I've always tipped well - even when I've received poor service, because I believe it is part of my witness to return good for evil. Leave only a card with the plan of salvation and no money... not much of a witness there other than making sure that waitress NEVER visits your church.
You have a set gratuity at the airport any more...and as much as you pay for one cup of coffee at Starbucks they still want a tip. Tipping has become ridiculous.
Checked with the daughters....in one restaurant, the busser gets minimum, my daughter does not, but is expected to tip out the bussers at the end of the night.
The other daughter does not tip bussers as they are getting more an hr than she does. Waitressing is very hard work.
My daughters have come home in tears because of managers taking a customers side...when they had to cut a guest off for drinking too much. The customer is always right.... even if it means the restaurant can get sued if they continue to serve to someone who gets in a car and kills someone.
Or when they have caught people sprinkling things on their meal, just to get it free.
How can a TIP insure PROMPT service if the TIP comes AFTER you got the service? hmmmm?
The concept is they will give you good service hoping for a good tip
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The concept is they will give you good service hoping for a good tip
Right. The onus is on the waiter to give service he will be rewarded for.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
P.S. I have never felt so dumb as when I looked up "SCOTUS" the other day and saw that it stood for "Supreme Court of the United States."
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
You know... this whole thread just plays out a good message on grace and law.
We should have mandatory tipping... As a Christian we should consider it mandatory to give a hard working waiter/waitress their due. It should be a part of who we are.
But a rule that makes you tip and decides how much your tip is doesn't accomplish the change in us as patrons.
There are times that they took their tip from us and I know that I would have tipped more if allowed to decide my own tip.
The law will never produce what living by the Spirit and Nature of our God and King will accomplish in our lives.
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