I just received my book...

[Neck]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

It would appear Dan that theirs is the origonal position and they might feel quite similiarly to you........

I am certain they feel that the other side has found ways to explain it away.....

And no doubt they feel that they would be left alone.....

Now I agree with you before you say it....mailing you a book is not leaving you alone......

But that side does offer a more substantive position on the television issue than "the souls"

But then your side has Mark Hamby to hold up and say this is our success story

These brothers have been around long enough to want to avoid the guaranteed fallout that another Hamby debacle will prompt

If you are going to mention Hanby. Please spell it right it is not Hamby but "Hanby".

Where might Mark Hanby, Kenneth Phillips and the UPCI be today?

They would have been within 6 months of TBN starting a network.

We mock TBN while the men of the UPCI had zero vision.

Hanby and others were ousted before any of their sins.

There have been many UPCI ministers that fell into the same sins.

They were not involved in the idea of TV.

We will never know what might have been because 33 years later the UPCI, though wearing different style suits still talk the same old retoric....

I wonder how many of the men who will vote against TV this time around, would turn down a chance to be headlined on TBN next Sunday.

For the record some would.

And they would miss a chance to be heard.

Because they care more about cause than effect.

Nathan Eckstadt

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

How could someone in good conscious sign something they don't believe? Isn't that lying? In 1992 another minister told my pastor to sign it and repent of it later. My pastor chose not to sign.

It might be if you don't explain in writing a cover letter that you have a problem with some of the things you're signing your name to ..... that you can't honestly pledge to "wholeheartedly" believe and "wholeheartedly" preach and teach these things to your congregation and demand those things of them.

[Praxeas]

aw you all are just being legalistic...next time I don't get the right change at the store I'm gonna accuse the cashier of legalism

[TRIPLE E]

Originally Posted by Dan

That is the problem! We want to zero in on one thing when in reality I personally don't know anyone who follows the manual to the crossing of the T and dotting of the I. Our problem is inconsistency!

I know of no preacher thus far who follows the maual 100% if you find one let me know.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by CC1

Will the book be made into a movie? If so I am just going to wait for that to come out.

It might be made into a DVD with a note that it can only be watched on a monitor and not on a television.

Synopsis of religions:
Jews don't recognize Jesus as Messiah.
Protestants don't recognize the pope.
Pentecostals don't recognize each other at the video store.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

It would appear Dan that theirs is the origonal position and they might feel quite similiarly to you........

I am certain they feel that the other side has found ways to explain it away.....

And no doubt they feel that they would be left alone.....

Now I agree with you before you say it....mailing you a book is not leaving you alone......

But that side does offer a more substantive position on the television issue than "the souls"

But then your side has Mark Hamby to hold up and say this is our success story

These brothers have been around long enough to want to avoid the guaranteed fallout that another Hamby debacle will prompt

Their side is not the "original" position.

The original position was no position.

[rkentsmith]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

If you are going to mention Hanby. Please spell it right it is not Hamby but "Hanby".

Where might Mark Hanby, Kenneth Phillips and the UPCI be today?

They would have been within 6 months of TBN starting a network.

We mock TBN while the men of the UPCI had zero vision.

Hanby and others were ousted before any of their sins.

There have been many UPCI ministers that fell into the same sins.

They were not involved in the idea of TV.

We will never know what might have been because 33 years later the UPCI, though wearing different style suits still talk the same old retoric....

I wonder how many of the men who will vote against TV this time around, would turn down a chance to be headlined on TBN next Sunday.

For the record some would.

And they would miss a chance to be heard.

Because they care more about cause than effect.

Nathan Eckstadt

So Nate....is it the fault of the evil mother church that Hanby had his alcohol and women issues......

[rkentsmith]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

I hope preachers at least hold on until the conference vote on TV! If you leave, you can't vote!

We ususally see many more libs leave the org than cons before and after the GC

This past year was no different

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by Just a Shepherd

today I received a 50 page book called Television Advertising, Televangelism & The United Pentecostal Church - A Good Idea? It was written by Larry Booker, Kenny Godair, Peter F. Connell, and Nathanial Wilson

I'll post some thoughts after reading it.

Anyone else get one - read it yet?

Let's see.....I am sure both sides will be represented in the book, right? Don't count on it.

I am pretty sure this will be a book about how bad it is.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

Let's see.....I am sure both sides will be represented in the book, right? Don't count on it.

I am pretty sure this will be a book about how bad it is.

So let the other side write their own book! That is simple. If they have the courage to do so.