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Old 04-01-2008, 06:29 PM
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What he said.
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Old 04-01-2008, 06:33 PM
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Re: Pastor's problems

I can fully understand what you are all talking about. I am a Pastor and have the same problem with preaching with things that I struggle with. I mean this is difficult for me to talk about but I fell honesty will help. I struggle with being really good looking and preach against being really good looking all the time.
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Old 04-01-2008, 06:37 PM
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I can fully understand what you are all talking about. I am a Pastor and have the same problem with preaching with things that I struggle with. I mean this is difficult for me to talk about but I fell honesty will help. I struggle with being really good looking and preach against being really good looking all the time.
You might to preach against Pride too. LOL
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Old 04-01-2008, 07:22 PM
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why did Jesus say "Ye shall not be so" in Luke?
The answer is the context of the text...Lordship.


Luke 22:25-27
25 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors.
26 But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve.
27 For whether is greater, he that sitteth at meat, or he that serveth? is not he that sitteth at meat? but I am among you as he that serveth.
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In the Kingdom, authority comes through servanthood. In addition Kingdom authority is not the same as carnal authority (lordship).
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I can fully understand what you are all talking about. I am a Pastor and have the same problem with preaching with things that I struggle with. I mean this is difficult for me to talk about but I fell honesty will help. I struggle with being really good looking and preach against being really good looking all the time.
Wow....talk about God sending someone a strong delusion....
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:17 PM
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thats the problem with the heatherns in the church today EDUCATION. The done learned enough book learnin that they want to analize the preacher. when i preach against TV(every service) even tho no one has one It aint because i spent 30 minutes in the electronics department at Wal Mart I


But you do have a point. I preach against meaness and bad spirits. I also preach against marbles.
read it John 3-7 Gotta stay in the word. Especially the part about vipers and hippocrits
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:21 PM
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I think the idea of "the ministry" to begin with is sadly misused by most of Christiandom and is a left over of the Catholic idea of clergy/laity teaching...

I don't believe there is a special class within the church of the haves and have nots....We are ALL called. We are ALL given gifts. We are ALL a kingdom of priests. We are ALL given the Spirit of God and thus "you shall receive power....and you shall be witnesses unto me".

WE are all called to pray for one another...not just a special class of minsters within the body of Christ. We are ALL called to serve. Thus we are ALL the anointed of God. We may not all be anointed to do the same exact work, but if you have the Spirit of God you have the anointing of God on you.
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Wow....talk about God sending someone a strong delusion....
I think that was more like an Hallucination.
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Rich Little??????? Man you must be old!
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:45 PM
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This is the most bunch of nonsense i ever read!!
I preach again hair curlers and i dont curl my hair...mostly cause i dont have any
i preach again short skirts and i aint ever been tempted to play the bagpipes
i preach against church growth and that aint ever changed me
i preach against fishin on sunday and i never have been tempted to fish on sunday cause i got to many heatherns to line out for tv's dime novels, golf, short sleeves, unauthorized vacations and joinin other orginizations besides mine!
i also preach against being rich and being good looking.
I sure do hope that you are really NOT a preacher...
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